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Ep. 77 - March Madness & NFL FA Tease

March 15, 2023 NO BS Podcast Season 2 Episode 77
Ep. 77 - March Madness & NFL FA Tease
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Ep. 77 - March Madness & NFL FA Tease
Mar 15, 2023 Season 2 Episode 77
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This podcast episode (Ep. 77) features hosts Stoy Hall and Cole Ingle discussing March Madness and NFL Free Agency. The episode starts with a humorous conversation about candy flavors before delving into the previous week's Players Championship golf tournament. They talk about the difficulty of the course, the number of hole-in-ones, and the players' performance. They also discuss the betting aspect of the tournament. The hosts then transition to March Madness and their predictions for the upcoming games. They discuss their brackets, potential upsets, and teams to watch out for. Finally, they end the episode with a preview of the NFL Free Agency and the potential moves of some of the big-name players. Overall, the episode provides a fun and informative discussion of sports and betting.

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This podcast episode (Ep. 77) features hosts Stoy Hall and Cole Ingle discussing March Madness and NFL Free Agency. The episode starts with a humorous conversation about candy flavors before delving into the previous week's Players Championship golf tournament. They talk about the difficulty of the course, the number of hole-in-ones, and the players' performance. They also discuss the betting aspect of the tournament. The hosts then transition to March Madness and their predictions for the upcoming games. They discuss their brackets, potential upsets, and teams to watch out for. Finally, they end the episode with a preview of the NFL Free Agency and the potential moves of some of the big-name players. Overall, the episode provides a fun and informative discussion of sports and betting.

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Stoy Hall:

It's,

Cole Ingle:

Hey, now we're live. Now we're live. Let's just pretend we weren't talking to ourselves for the last five minutes. technical difficulties. I'm gonna reintroduce the candy cane then.

Stoy Hall:

Candy K.

Cole Ingle:

Candy K I mean, nobody's watching anyway, so

Stoy Hall:

hey. Yeah, it's all right. But, uh, that's good. Yeah, this is gonna be fun. This is gonna be great. Fantastic. So let's, uh, let's dive in. Yeah. I have three from last week. Ooh, butcher scotch. Ooh, peppermint. What do I got? What do I got? Gimme something good. Watermelon. The actual bananas. And the last one, green apple. Let's go. These are gonna be good together. Well, beard, they have flo, like something is floating in them.

Cole Ingle:

It's always good.

Stoy Hall:

Disgustingness. So

Cole Ingle:

yeah, liquor's not good. It's floating, right? My three

Stoy Hall:

from last week. And we'll walk through why you have three. Really, just really just one mistake.

Cole Ingle:

I mean, you also made a mistake and you're not getting penalized for it, so

Stoy Hall:

it's a withdrawal. He withdrew before the cut line.

Cole Ingle:

You withdrew before he got cut. He

Stoy Hall:

withdrew before even the second round.

Cole Ingle:

He was under the, the cut line when he withdrew. He withdrew before

Stoy Hall:

the second round.

Cole Ingle:

No, he was playing when he withdrew. I thought he withdrew, withdrew early. Oh, I don't know. I thought he was playing and not Well,

Stoy Hall:

no, I, and that, that's why I had it. But I thought he withdrew early enough where like it's a withdrawal, not a, a, a dive from the cut line. Well, what's, you know, let's, you know, let's look it up just in case if he played in the second round. A hundred percent agree. All right. If he withdrew before it.

Cole Ingle:

Okay, then, then here's what it's, then we're making new rules. That's fine.

Stoy Hall:

New rules. I'm pretty sure

Cole Ingle:

it's same. Always new rules. Just one new rules. Sure. Oh my goodness. See, I'm flustered God about these new rules. Flustered.

Stoy Hall:

Can't even find it. Oh, but you can go ahead and, uh, well, I'm looking this up. Go through, um, yeah. The week and how

Cole Ingle:

it went and, all right. Uh, players championship. Um, course is beautiful as always. Um, and difficult, uh, three hole in ones. Yeah. Uh, a

Stoy Hall:

week actually. There was a bet on, on FanDuel. It was, uh, what was it? What was it? What was it? Was was it was like, um, 50% boost for Yeah. The hole in ones hole one. And it happened and it happened early and Yeah.

Cole Ingle:

Within the first, like, I wanna say within the first three hours of golf,

Stoy Hall:

Shortly before the start of the second round. Ah, all

Cole Ingle:

right. You should have seen the range session.

Stoy Hall:

I didn't. No, I don't, I didn't mean Uh, yeah, but, so

Cole Ingle:

three hold ones, Alison. Yeah, three hole ones. Um, decent amount of chip ends and stuff like that. Uh, golf overall was solid. Not great, uh, except for one person. Um, a little bit all over the board. Um, really everywhere else. Uh, some of the top players were non, non-existent, non-competitive, uh, and then some of'em kind of roast at the top on Sunday. Played well enough to, to get themselves, uh, into some money. And others, uh, Rory, here's looking at you. Um, missed the cut. Missed a cut. Uh, and not close. I mean, he was three or four shots off the cut, uh, cuz a couple guys made the cut on the number and then played well on the weekend, so, um, made themselves some money. Uh, Cheryl Hatton was the biggest winner. He ended up finishing t2, uh, with a 65 on Sunday, um, which was a great round. Impressive specific, specifically say, say that one again on Sunday. uh, when there wasn't nearly as many low numbers out there. Uh, so that was, uh, impressive by him. Made himself in nine holes. He went from like 140,000 to 2.1. Yeah. Uh, million. Million, yeah. Yeah. So, uh, a good$2 million increase by shooting seven under in the last nine holes. Um, so that's a pretty good finish. Yeah. Uh, kudos to him. Tom Hoy set the course record on Saturday with a 10 under, so he went from two over, which was the cut line on Friday to, I don't know if he finished top 10, somewhere in there. Um, but yeah, two eight under, um, going into Sunday, give himself a chance. So a couple of notable rounds there. T3. Uh, t3. So, um, got himself

Stoy Hall:

1.5

Cole Ingle:

mill. Yeah. So great. Round 62. The new courts record, uh, there for the one and only Tom Hoy. Um, a lot of those golf stats and course records, uh, are held by guys of that ilk. Yeah. Uh, so it's just golf. Uh, Potter got hot and everything else was working for him on Saturday. Saturday was a the lowest scoring. Oh man. It was low round for players. Unless you were more kawa who just shit the bed on the weekend. Well, actually for three days, but

Stoy Hall:

I mean, he had one round, he came hot and.

Cole Ingle:

Not a bad weekend. Just disappointing when you're the first strong leader. Second place. So I

Stoy Hall:

think, I mean, you're, you're, you're skipping the person who came out ahead the most for the week and that was Jordan spe. Why do you say that? Because he was gonna miss the cut. Well, do we have that, do we have that as a Twitter

Cole Ingle:

thing? Yeah, I'm sure that's a clip. Um, off a kneecap. We never did. See I was kept tracking on the weekend. Um, he got a flag. Yeah. And not enough, let's put it that way. Considering speed ended up

Stoy Hall:

with 275 K

Cole Ingle:

on the week, which was 270 thou,$5,000 more than he would have had it not had, how the guy's knee kneecap in, in the way

Stoy Hall:

and we're not. And for those that didn't see it, and I really, I think we have it, but um, it didn't just hit him. Oh, it Rico ricochet to the middle of

Cole Ingle:

the fairway. Yeah, no, a ball that was for sure headed for the water for spe to miss the cut. Well, not necessarily miss the cut cuz the cut did finish it. Plus two. So if he somehow could have made par, which would've been, uh, up and down from the rough from about one 70, um, doable, then he still would've made the cut. Right. But, um, he said himself in the interview that he missed the cut. Most likely would've missed the cut. Um, had that ball on his very last hole on Friday. Not, not redirected off of a human like 50 50.

Stoy Hall:

And the guy got a signed flag for all that we know now, and they could have kept a private witch. Right.

Cole Ingle:

Which would've been better probably, but

Stoy Hall:

probably. But still, yeah. Um, you give, you gotta give him a lot.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. Technically, I mean, that was, I actually could kind of forgotten about that, but, um, you know, buried the lead in all of it. Ultimately Scotty Scheffler, number one player in the world, um, you know, him and Rom have dominated events so far. Hopefully a sign of things to come here next month at Augusta. Um, just really hoping for a showdown between those two. They, they've doled a little bit, but for the most part it's been one of them dominating while the other one is. Okay. Shufflers actually been a little bit more consistent overall, just as far as like he's been in all of the tournaments where Rom's kind of faded a couple of them, but I would say Scotty's playing better golf overall than Rom uh, rom has just found a way, um, and battled through, um, more so or more times than Scheffler, uh, which, you know, look at it either way. Um, if I'm taking one or the other right now, Scheffler is, is probably the, gotta look at mm-hmm. um, because his game in every. Facet. Uh, when he has to scramble, he's chipping in. When he has to make a putt, he's draining 15 footers for whether it be for birdie, for par, you know, whatever it is. And, you know, he can drive it, he can shape it. This is coming

Stoy Hall:

from the man who picked him, who faded him. Yeah, I mean, I just put you put yourself in this situation, you said. I

Cole Ingle:

did. I mean, and that's, I mean, that's the thing is like I looked at rom last week, um, struggled a little bit and I just said, you know what, like Scheffer's do, and I, it wasn't even that he was gonna miss the cut or anything like that. It was just like, of all of these guys, like he's just due to have one bad round. Yeah, well, you know, whatever it may be. And there's a lot of water, there's a lot of bad breaks he can get at the players and stuff like that. And didn't, um, he was just unflappable. I mean, it didn't work out. That was never really in question. The only thing I can say for myself is that on Friday I got him at plus two, plus 1 75 or plus 200 to win. Um, and sprinkle, sprinkle, uh, no, no, I went big. Oh. Um, it was a, oh, I think I had a, well, I went big. I say I went big. I had a free bet, but it was a$25 free bet, which is more than I would. More than a sprinkle. Absolutely. Yeah. It's more than a sprinkle. If it wasn't, I wouldn't have. 25. No. Um, but I had it. And, uh, so that nailed was a big, that was a big win. Absolutely. Cause that turned free bet into real money, real money, uh, which went to the bank account so that I didn't parlay it away, because

Stoy Hall:

it would've happened, because,

Cole Ingle:

because that's what would've happened, especially this week. So, yeah, that was good. I hit a, uh, a Holin top five and a, a shuffler, uh, overall, so that was cool. Uh, sweated the holin top five all the way. Yeah. All the way to the end. All the way to the clubhouse on Sunday. So, and, and this is why we bet. So, um, I, I saved my bedding for the big tournaments in golf and for like March Madness for basketball and stuff like that. I, I don't usually dabble, um, within the day to day, but, uh, yeah. So it, it was fruitful, yeah. This last weekend for me, so that was good. Well, I'm, I'm glad

Stoy Hall:

it was Yeah. In the, in the pocketbook. Yeah. And I'm also glad it wasn't,

Cole Ingle:

and it wasn't, uh, in the shitty shot category, so Yeah. Yeah. Making up for it. Um, but we'll start at the bottom because that's where the big story lies here. So I faded Scheffler, who was, uh, second favorite overall. He ends up winning, um, which is a double shitty shot that also is a negative five points. Um, and I won, I believe three. Oh. It's a double city shot for for fadie for a player to fade. Oh yeah, that's right. We have absolutely.

Stoy Hall:

Well then you

Cole Ingle:

have four. Well, I mean, my apologies. It is what it is, but, um, so yeah, so I have two for that. Um, where, why, why do we have another

Stoy Hall:

one? Because we do one on one and done's head up. Yeah. So that's three and then Oh, the points for the week. Okay. I don't, right. I mean, that's how we had it last week. That's the only reason I tracked it. Like that's that's why you had the three. Yeah. Okay. So I, I mean if that's, I, I don't remember doing it first weeks at all. Yeah. Go back and look. I highlight when we have shitty shots for, for last week. So Yeah. Cuz you had a double, had a double and that one shouldn't have been there. Um, it was for the weekly, the points. That's where the three would

Cole Ingle:

come from. Okay. So you had a double in the points. Yeah. And then this week. you'd have, I had a double in the points. I don't think we'd been doing one and done. Let's

Stoy Hall:

just make sure we'd have one. That, that one's irrelevant. We'd

Cole Ingle:

have one. This was mine for the points

Stoy Hall:

and mine for,

Cole Ingle:

I don't know. I don't Cause you won the points, but then Oh, cuz you missed the cut. That's why you had one. Got it. So yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's still three. Okay. Still three. Yep. Go ahead. All right. Uh, we check, but uh, yeah, so you faded Cantley. He finished still T 19. Not bad. Rory was obviously the fade play this week. um, would love that one ultimately. Um, he was, but uh, he was also the favorite. Mm-hmm. So, um, we did not fade him. Um, but, um, yeah. So not, I mean, good faith. But you got threes. You were 15, so you were, you got your three uh, I got my minus five. And, and the rest of the way, uh, I had doin as a top 40 inish ended up tied 60th. That should be. Yeah. Yeah, that makes more sense. Yeah. Uh, kitty Yama, you had, oh, Jesus. I haven't my, this two weeks in a row. He missed my, the cut. We do not penalize the dark horse in top 40. Miscuts. Geez. Luckily for you, uh, dark Horse, you had Corey Connors, he also missed the cut, and I had Takala, who I believe may maybe made the cut on the number, maybe a little ahead. He had some really big moments and some really bad moments throughout the weekend, which that goes for a lot of guys. Uh, outright winner, uh, I had JT and you had Rom, uh, JT was in it for a while and then was out of it and just never, never really made a push. Um, on Saturday or Sunday, really either one finished T 60 as well. Um, I'm withdrew before the second round, uh, as we have researched. And you had Homa who finished T six after a great round on Sunday, and I had Mark Hawa who finished T 13, which could have been much better, but also could have been worse because he at least didn't completely go off the deep end when he started to struggle, um, with the putter and. Really all of his game kinda went to shit after the first round, uh, for whatever reason. So, um, you've got the money there a little bit. Uh, I have money. I'm like seven I gained on money. Houma made$736,600, uh, for a T six finish. Scheffler won another four and a half. Was it four and a half million? I think he won four and a half. Four, yeah. Um,

Stoy Hall:

a little bit ridiculous between one and six.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah, I got a put it out there. I put one in a Twitter, uh, on how much Scotty has made, and it's a pretty absurd, uh, track of what he's done in one year. Uh, so we'll look at that a little bit later. Uh, Makawa made$447,900. Not bad for tying for 13th. I'll take it. I would take it every day. I'll, I'll tie for 13th for, for$447,000. Uh, so the weekly score count, uh, unfortunately for me, I scored eight points, but then chose Shuffler, so down to five. So I got six. He got the win there. I have the double shitty shot for Shuffler and the loss on points. So that's my three. Stoy has his double for Makawa last week, missing the cut and losing on the points. So we are even through two weeks, which, you know, Prayfully. So for quitters out there, they would just not count any of'em and yeah. Take their shots. Yeah. Not for us though. Not for us. Not bananas and watermelons. Here we go.

Stoy Hall:

One down. It's just not good. So I follow this guy on YouTube. Mm-hmm. uh, what the hell's his name? Uh, and um, what he does his channel, let's see if I can't find him real quick. Uh, where are you? Doka Ryan. And what he does is he takes whatever laure and like candies and chocolates and whatever, puts'em in a mason jar, fills it up, lets it sit for a week, and then just takes the shot of that. I feel like we could do something similar with shitty shots. Yeah. Where we just bring in random shit every week and we mix it and we sit it here and wait for the next week to take it. Dude, some of'em are really, really bad, I'm sure, but some of'em are delicious. He did. Uh, God, what was the other one he did? He did rollos in, um, rum. Yeah, I mean, that sounds good. And it was like salted caramel basically. So, uh, fun facts. Fun facts. All right. I didn't even put the other tournament on there. That's how much I care about it. Whoops. It's been a, it's been, it's been a week. It's only Tuesday. Um, on Tuesday. Also, if we about it, if we end up being distracted in about 40 minutes, may or may not be cuz the game's on. Right? Just throwing it out there. There's game. Um, so this week in golf, do you

Cole Ingle:

want to, uh, run through Twitter

Stoy Hall:

real quick? I was gonna end with this then follow it with golf, Twitter and just keep, stay on Twitter right into March Menez, just so we don't have to bounce back. No, that's fine. Which doesn't really help much cuz Prepped for the Val Bar is, uh, in, in very high. In very high. Uh, you wanna grab the computer and while you talk through it, at least talk through who's in it. Oh, no. JT Jordan are playing because it's in Texas there.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah, I think let's take a gander.

Stoy Hall:

Let's take a gander. Those who are actually tuning into the Valspar this weekend, you are dedicated. uh, don't think I'll be watching much of the Valspar. I mean, I'll flip through. Well, you can check

Cole Ingle:

in every now and again. Yeah. Well also if you have the golf channel, it's on the morning before basketball starts. Mm, true. So weekend, it'll be a weekend viewing. Uh, Sam Burns is the headliner, uh, from a standpoint of he's a two time champion here. Big news, there are only, I think I put this one into Twitter too. It's three or four, um, three time, uh, winners on the PGA tour. We all know who number one is. It's somebody, somebody, I think one more person, like with two in one or something like that. I think all with one. Yeah. And then Tiger with eight, excuse me, how many? Eight. He has eight times. He has won a tournament three times in a row. Three times in a row. That's just, that's

Stoy Hall:

just like,

Cole Ingle:

that's just, it's just silly. I think, I don't know. Remember if I, I put that one on there and you reacted or vice versa, but I just was like, just like, it was just one of those things where you put it like you could do just like crazy Tiger stat one, like one a day for a full year and still just completely be

Stoy Hall:

Yeah. Blown away. They're, they're legitimately video game stats, like that would be something. As a created player that, yeah, created player that we Oh, in row? Yeah. Like,

Cole Ingle:

like what the hell? I mean, it's just like his, you know, it's his miscuts, whether it's his putts from inside X number of feet. Uh, just like all of those stats are just insanely uncatchable. Yeah. Like, um, like never again. It's not ever happening. Yeah. Um, even as good as all of the guys are these days, it's just, yeah. Just so many, so many things that happening. Nobody's touching. So yeah, we're at the Vals Bar this week in Texas. Um, I actually, not a, I mean, not a terrible top end. Um, we've got Thomas Spe, Fitzpatrick, burns, Bradley Rose, Fleetwood, um, all guys who played, you know, well this weekend. Uh, names, you know, um, finish out that, you know, that's the top seven, that's about where it ends. You get into head when Riley McCarthy after that. Uh, so not necessarily household names after that, but, you know, top seven, um, better than we've seen, you know, like for the Honda or anything like that. But, um, you're gonna have that as we get these premier events and it's only gonna continue to get more so like that where, um, those, the players in these smaller tournaments are, there's just not gonna be as many of'em. Um, when four and a half millions available the week before. And like you, you had the, a Arnie into the players. That's two weeks ago. That's just back to back. That's what you're gonna get. Um, it's just like you had the, the Phoenix open into the Genesis. Um, you know, the Honda Classics just not gonna have names. Uh, whether it be for the golf course, where it's located, how much money's out there. I mean, all of those things are gonna come into play and more so as we get to these limited cut fields and stuff like that. So, uh, that being said, um, you know, I, I see, I mean, Thomas is the favorite this week, uh, is what I'm seeing on FanDuel. Assume you're seeing the same Yep. Uh, plus a thousand.

Stoy Hall:

I didn't know if you were gonna switch it up and go to

Cole Ingle:

DraftKings. I just know, I mean, by human nature told me to pull up FanDuel.

Stoy Hall:

By the way. I still don't have that. Still has not come through

Cole Ingle:

me. Okay, well you're supposed to get it and I'm supposed to get it. I know. So, so you got it. That's good. No, I never got it. Oh,

Stoy Hall:

you never got it? No, I never got it either. So, I don't know. Draft Kings we're gonna have an argument. Yeah. Uh, all what was, uh, go? What you doing PGA Golf? Yeah. Golf. Golf, golf. All right, JT 1200.

Cole Ingle:

1200 all by himself? No, him. And speed. Yep. Yeah, so clear one two in Fanduels Thomas. One, speed two Fitzpatrick three at 1500. Sam Burns. Four at 1600. Keegan Bradley and Justin Rose at 2200 in Tommy Fleetwood and Adam Hady at 2,400. Um, 2 68. And then it looks like Davis Riley and Denny McCarthy. Finish out my top 10 here. 31 and 3,300 respectively.

Stoy Hall:

Yeah, there's a lot more here on this one. Okay. JT and speed are 1200 Fitzpatrick alone. And third with 14 Burney. 18. Uh, Justin arose at 2000, Fleetwood Bradley, 22 had wind, 25 alone there. Harmon 3000. And then we've got four tied Clark or, uh, Windham. Justin, Sue, Denny McCarthy, Davis. Riley. Finish out that at 3,500. Okay. It's a little jumbled mess there.

Cole Ingle:

Um, all right. A quick breakdown of the weather. Um, we're gonna see wind and get a, possibly see more delays with rain this weekend. Um, Valspar is actually, uh, not in Texas. It's in. Uh, Palm Harbor. We are way off, you know, copperhead course though. Uh, so popular course there in Florida. Actually. Copperhead is ti is that where Tiger and JT are members? This Copperhead? No, they're at, uh, Seminole. Seminole. Yep, you're right. Um, but I'm sure a course that they're fairly, I'm sure they play there. Yeah. Yeah. Um, on Friday. So Thursday's going to be probably solid first round scores. That's definitely your, your day of, of scoring. Um, some wind gusts a little bit. Friday, gusts up to 40. 40. Yeah. Um, which that could suspend play in itself. Whoa. Um,

Stoy Hall:

wow. Are they playing in Iowa in the spring?

Cole Ingle:

Let's see. We've got, wow. Things get worse on Saturday and Sunday. Worse rain enters the picture. Decent chance on Saturday to see Blaise. Are they gonna finish 72 and Sunday rainy conditions? Um, definitely going to play a part. So 76 for the high on Thursday, eight to 16 mile an hour. Friday 80, but windy, 20 mile an hour. Sustained. 39 mile an hour gusts. Not a ton of chance of rain on Friday though. On Saturday we've got 70% chance of rain, 42% chance of thunderstorms, 16 to 30, um, 75 degrees. So like cold isn't gonna be the issue, but wind, wind, wind and rain. Um, combined, uh, breezy in the morning on Sunday, another chance of thunderstorms, cloudy. Uh, 13 mile an hour winds up to 25, my guess, you know, so there's a 70% chance of rain on Sunday as well. 40% chance of thunderstorms this thing could finish on, can definitely finish on Monday, is definitely going, I mean you're definitely going to play it looks like in some type of weather. Uh, how long is going to probably be a pretty dramatic, so this

Stoy Hall:

would be definitely set up so far with the weather could change of course, right? Where it's paramount to actually score Thursday. Right? Right. Then it is usually a moving Saturday. Like you might wanna score Thursday cuz it might be the only conditions to really go low, right? Low. But hey, I think that provides more, uh, I think that the, the cream rises differently there. Jts a, a bad weather. Mm-hmm. layer. Mm-hmm. uh, so look into that. Speed can be too. I know, you know, J Rose has been hot. He, he would be in that scenario. Same with Fleetwood. Um, again, this is gonna lead more to your Europeans that are used to a lot of the wind in rain. Just Right. Think about it. Just think about it. Yeah.

Cole Ingle:

Um, what, think about it. Definitely, definitely going to be challenging. And I'm not sure, so I was just trying to think like, in my head, does that make me wanna watch more or less? And I'm definitely gonna tune in specifically just to see what the weather's doing. Absolutely. Um, but I'll be very irritated when in the morning the rounds are suspended and I'm watching Sam Burns when last year's tournament, because inevitably that's what will happen. Yeah. Nice. Uh, so, uh, kind of is what it is. But, uh, don't anticipate a, the way these rounds have gone. Uh, I just don't anticipate them finishing, uh, Saturday or Sunday. And just depends on what they're gonna do on Friday with those wins. Um, how much they're impacting the course. I'm not incredibly familiar with the course as far as if there's a lot of trees or anything like that to block some of this. I also don't know the rule

Stoy Hall:

of wind well, cause basically if the ball can't

Cole Ingle:

stop on the ground Yeah. I mean, essentially if it's impacting the, yeah. Like if the pin is blowing out of the hole or the ball cannot come to a rest without oscillating or moving. Yeah, that's it. Um, so, but uh, yeah, we can, uh, all

Stoy Hall:

right, well you pulled up your one and done. Who you got left?

Cole Ingle:

Um, one and done for me. This week's gonna be Fleetwood. Okay. Um, just, I think he's play coming off of a good weekend. Um, as well as these conditions are going to bother him less than most, and I just don't know where I would play him anywhere else. Anywhere else. Yeah, I agree. It's a field that's a little bit weaker too, so, um, just has a, has a good Fleetwood feel to me. I, uh, as soon as I saw the weather conditions, I feel

Stoy Hall:

you. Um, I'm gonna go with Burney, I think. I don't think I've ever taken him. I doubt I would. Nope.

Cole Ingle:

Um, you talked about him a little bit, but yeah, no.

Stoy Hall:

Um, three Peter in, uh, you know, a lower field, uh, with the ones above him. Um, obviously Fitch, Patrick's Little, what's

Cole Ingle:

he on FanDuel 1800 or what's he on Draft Kings? Sorry? You're on Draft Kings?

Stoy Hall:

Yeah. 1800 and, uh, your boy Fleetwood 2200. Um, nice. And, and JT speeds aren't in form either, so. Yep. Weaker field. You're used to it. You're, you're raining. Champ has that little conference in him. I don't know how he plays in this type of weather, but Yeah, let's ride with him. It's a one. I'm not gonna pick him

Cole Ingle:

anywhere else. Right. So you've got him on DraftKings at 1800? Yeah. On FanDuel. He's 1600. Uh, vice versa here on Fleetwood, he's 2200 on DraftKings, but I can get him at 2,400 on FanDuel. So take the value, uh, make sure you're checking the value on those, uh, outright winner. Um hmm. I mean, these conditions are, are ripe for jt. I know. Um,

Stoy Hall:

I was

Cole Ingle:

thinking the same thing. I took him last week, but I don't really care, so it's an outright winner. These, this makes sense. So we'll go

Stoy Hall:

with that. Yeah. I mean, I, I don't really want to double up, but I'm going to gimme Fleetwood. All right. Tommy's, uh, he's streaky. He likes to be streaky.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. Laying well. Um, what, what did you say Thomas was 1200. Yeah. Just note that there. Um, black Stallion, black Stallion.

Stoy Hall:

Ooh, what shall we do here?

Cole Ingle:

I getting a tum. I'm getting a lot of top in value There. Are we? No,

Stoy Hall:

we are not. Hmm, this is, this is, this is just a crapshoot. I don't You think

Cole Ingle:

din likes spraying the rain. He's got a bucket hat. That's what, that's what I'm going with. That's what

Stoy Hall:

I was

Cole Ingle:

thinking. I was literally, Joel din in his bucket hat are gonna go out there at plus 1 0 5, or he's not. Plus 1 0 5. Excuse me. That was tough. 40

Stoy Hall:

plus 8,000.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. There we go. Okay. Well, I was looking at top forties too. That's fair. That's fair. But my, my Black stallion will be old Joel. Little repeat action for you this

Stoy Hall:

week. Give me, gimme some k h Lee.

Cole Ingle:

All right. Why? What is he? I don't know.

Stoy Hall:

Plus 5,500. All right. Is there a rhyme reason? Nope.

Cole Ingle:

No. Does there have to be not in Black Stallion

Stoy Hall:

top 40? Uh, I don't have a top 40. I have a top five and a top 10.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah, that makes sense. I feel like they were a little bit, let see more

Stoy Hall:

bets. Lemme try to, oh, nope, I got it. All right. Top 40.

Cole Ingle:

Mine starts at Taylor Moore. I. Uh, Maverick

Stoy Hall:

Mcneley.

Cole Ingle:

Yep. Plus 1 0 5. He's right there in that group. 100 Moore doin McNeely are all in that group.

Stoy Hall:

Uh, for me. Uh, no. I'm taking doin. He's plus one 30. There you go. I know I'm doubling up a lot, but there's not Yeah. Much here.

Cole Ingle:

What'd you say? Plus one 30. Yeah. That's actually pretty good value. I will take. Who wants to play in the rain? That's the real question. Uh,

Stoy Hall:

see him right? Or might grind one out.

Cole Ingle:

Think Vin Roy likes to play in the rain. Thanks for idea. Nobody likes to play in the rain, but I think I too. I'm going to, uh, jump on here. Eric Van Rowen plus one 90 doing

Stoy Hall:

it. How'd he go?

Cole Ingle:

All right. And top

Stoy Hall:

it off. Plus 200 by the way. Go ahead and grab him.

Cole Ingle:

Um, with our player to fade.

Stoy Hall:

Yeah. Uh, uh. He's just, he's just not. And when he's off, he's a little bit off. And so give me spe. Okay. I wouldn't touch the JT one. I know he's number one, but like that. I'll take a T one spe over a T one JT in this scenario. All right,

Cole Ingle:

spe, um, I'm not touch touching either one of those top two guys. Uh, let's see here. Um, shoot,

Stoy Hall:

it's,

Cole Ingle:

Patrick has not been playing well, but this is just the type of tournament that's, I couldn't touch that. I'm gonna go with Bradley.

Stoy Hall:

Yeah, that's a, that's a solid

Cole Ingle:

one too. Well, Keegan doesn't seem like someone who really cares to be out there in the rain to me. No. Um, I've got him at fifth. Is that what you're saying? Oh, let's see. One,

Stoy Hall:

two. Yeah,

Cole Ingle:

see five. Um, so yeah, you've got, uh, quick recap here. Players to fade. You are fading. Spe uh, at, well, actually you get'em at two or do you want'em at one? You want'em at one? You want'em at, you want'em one. You want'em at. Well, no, cuz you want your 10 spread.

Stoy Hall:

Yeah. I'd rather go to 12 of than No,

Cole Ingle:

you're right. Right, right. Uh, so T1 for Spe Bradley's fifth, um, for our players to fade top 40. Uh, you're taking doin at plus one 30. I'm taking Van Reyn at plus 200, uh, black stallions Cage Lee plus 5,500 Joel Doman at plus 8,000 and outright. Winner for you, Fleetwood for me jt. And for one and Dunn's, I am taking Fleetwood and you are taking the threepeat. The threepeat

Stoy Hall:

for Sam Burns. Someone has to catch

Cole Ingle:

ticker. So, okay. There we are for picks for the week. Um, a quick little, uh, golf recap here on Twitter and we will dive into the madness. The

Stoy Hall:

madness? Mm-hmm. All right, let's cut on over here to here. Let

Cole Ingle:

me turn off. I think we should probably do another shot at this point. Yeah. Are you, you're just one in, yeah. Uh, you got the butterscotch? I

Stoy Hall:

do. I got the butterscotch. All right. Let's do this thing. Look at us. It's cute.

Cole Ingle:

It's by far

Stoy Hall:

the best one. Uh, green apples. Agree, disagree. I don't remember last time you've had a green apple. I feel like I always get the green apple though. All right, so let's become

Cole Ingle:

your favorite

Stoy Hall:

probably. All right. Uh, first start off. So contextual here. This was God, what, where was he when you sent this first?

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. First he was the first round leader. Right. Um, and also in contention through Saturday. Really? Yeah.

Stoy Hall:

So, uh, Chad Rameys. Chad Ramey. Ramey. Yep. Ramey Results this season have been Miscut Miscut, T 28, T 69. Miscut, miscut, miscut, miscut 38th, T 54 T 70. Miscut, miscut, miscut. Early on leader. Yep. In contention all the way through. Yep. Saturday, just a just golf.

Cole Ingle:

And then we had Minu Minu Lee, um, leading as well. And he kind of pooped the bed, I think down to T six or T seven, somewhere in there. Huh. So Sunday pressure

Stoy Hall:

definitely gets the onions. Yep. Gets the onions. But here we are. this is it.

Cole Ingle:

The spe extravaganza. Uh, you see the red line that is going towards the water. This ball takes one.

Stoy Hall:

I've, I've felt this, I've done this multiple

Cole Ingle:

times for contact. So yeah, I mean, he lets this ball go. It goes right this ball one hops, it's the guy in the blue shirt right off the kneecap, and that is his ball back into the fairway. Um, the ball went probably 12 to 15 feet in the air and probably traveled a good 30 yards to get back to the fairway off of one hop and a kneecap. Yep. Boom,

Stoy Hall:

boom. Dead nuts in the middle of the fairway. Yep.

Cole Ingle:

Right off the side of his knee. And here it comes, over the ropes, over the people

Stoy Hall:

back into the fairway. And, and basically just as

Cole Ingle:

I mean, far as everyone else drives and look at it still has enough spin on it to go forward after it hops creating that top spin, it's still got enough that it's rolls forward. Probably a good three to four yards in the fairway after bouncing off the kneecap landing and now it's bouncing forward. Safe

Stoy Hall:

to say it was spiny. Yeah, spiny. It was

Cole Ingle:

a little spiny. So good on that. Yes, that is water over there and there is nothing stopping that ball going the water except for that human being. Um, that ball's going straight in the water, uh, if he's not standing there. So good ricochet. Uh, and again, after that speed made the cut on the number and 1 270$5,000

Stoy Hall:

Good for him. So good for him. Um, this. Cool.

Cole Ingle:

So this was a, during the broadcast, uh, some technology they brought in. So the, the lines that you're seeing at the top are the flow of the wind. Um, this is the, the par three 17th. And so like, this is live, what the wind is doing, and then all of a sudden the wind, so the wind is calm. The wind is calm, this is what we're talking to the caddy about. This is what we're feeling. It's an easy shot. It's 135 yard shot. Caddy walks away. All of a sudden there are two streams of wind that are, I mean, basically vortexing Right? Um, and probably twice the speed. Um, whereas like if you hit that vortex coming from the island now, cuz you can see it's coming from a completely different direction. Crush your ball. Um, yeah. And also it's moving directly back into you and to the right, instead of just a steady flow of like maybe a quarter of a club at best difference.

Stoy Hall:

It also, the wind is also lower. Yeah. Like, like the other one, it's up here. Yeah. So you can keep your ball low, don't have to deal with it. Like this is all over the place. Mm-hmm. could, could you imagine though if like the technology had glasses and now you can see the wind. Right. What it would be like, just psyche out. You'd just be like, oh, oh shit.

Cole Ingle:

So you don't know what the players are feeling necessarily, but this is,

Stoy Hall:

but this is probably part of the reason there's so many balls in the water. Mm-hmm. this is kind of showing you that cuz the wind changes

Cole Ingle:

a little bit because it's just a, it's a stock wed. or less right. For these guys, depending on pin placement and wind. Yes. So this is not a difficult golf shot we saw on Saturday. The conditions were fairly good. I think there was one, maybe two balls in the water on Saturday and no one off the green even. So it can be a, a, a rather easy hole for guys as well. But as soon as that wind starts to blow and we didn't see it nearly as much this year as we did last year. Right. Um, but definitely makes you second guess yourself, your swing shit, um, and stuff like that. So

Stoy Hall:

I didn't even have it over there. I had it on us. Oh well I'll play the video. I'm really, I'm really off my game. I apologize to all those watching currently, all those that watch it afterwards. It would be cool. This is cool. Why, why we just this technology?

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. I don't know where that must be. Some, there must be something in that tower that's gauging that. Yeah. I just don't know. I really want to see that though at Augusta on, is it 12? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Give They always get some because of the tree line. Yeah. Uh, it's like 140 yard. This was,

Stoy Hall:

uh, The chances of this ball doing this are,

Cole Ingle:

yeah. So billions to going in the water. Oh wait. It's going into the part of the wood that has been checked out by a bird. Um, essentially um, and has been nested in, I don't

Stoy Hall:

know what the ruling was on that, by the way. Just hazardous like, like it

Cole Ingle:

is in the water. Yeah. So you either had to play it from there or take your, at your drop, because the yellow lines designating the hazard. So

Stoy Hall:

foreplay, which is by the way, great follow. Mm-hmm. open the face and accelerate, by the way, would you attempted it?

Cole Ingle:

No broken wrist. Yeah. Broken golf club and broken wrist and in the water. Fall water, yes.

Stoy Hall:

And by the way, the ball probably stays

Cole Ingle:

there. So now you've got a broken club, a broken wrist, wrist, you're in the water and you can't swim because your wrist is broken. you're screwed all around. Like, uh, I did see something this weekend though, that said the penalty for hitting the ball in the water. So like, there's like a fairway we could see from the on the wind video. Mm-hmm. there's a fairway down to the left, and then like up there is where the drop zone is that the penalty for, for hitting the ball in the water. There should be, um, having to take a ferry out to the island that's to the right where the tree is. Yes. And that your caddy has to paddle you out there. So it's the paddle of shame. be, I thought that was really good. That hor good tweet. Oh, that'd be great. So, all right. Obviously not in the cards because the pace of play would be severely, you

Stoy Hall:

could do it on Wednesdays. That'd be, or something fun like Yeah. If you were, uh, what was I getting at? Oh yeah, this, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tour golf. Not that tour, the other tour. Mm-hmm. Uh, according to Jordan's speech agent, the spectator that he hit ended up taking speed up on his offer to get him whatever he wants. The fan asked for 20 masters tickets, all expenses paid for trip, a new set of clubs, a membership to five country clubs, which is egregious. The fan said he would've made$0 if it wasn't for me. So honestly, I feel like whatever purse money he makes should all go

Cole Ingle:

to me. Which I mean, he'd be close to spending that 2 75

Stoy Hall:

on the twenties, on the 20 master tickets.

Cole Ingle:

Well, I mean, 20 masters tickets, if you're getting all expensive paid your, I mean, what are you looking at there? 200,000, 10,000 a piece. Yeah. And so the 75,000 is probably only gonna cover one of the memberships. Yeah. Uh, depending on what your country, I mean, you what says country? I would just ask

Stoy Hall:

for the first one. That'd be perfect. Right?

Cole Ingle:

Just give it to me. Yeah, but I mean, I wouldn't ask for 20, I'm kind of greedy. I don't, I don't want to invite, I would that many people purpose the

Stoy Hall:

purse is what I would've just asked for.

Cole Ingle:

Gimme the 2 75 and we'll figure it out later. You know what, just gimme 200.

Stoy Hall:

Yeah. Pay your cat to the other 75.

Cole Ingle:

We'll move on. We get, uh, take your private jet back to your,

Stoy Hall:

clearly that's not what happened, but I, I actually am a whole full believer in the fact that he should get a fairly good sum.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. The dude, if the dude's not at the masters, that's on him. Christ speci like two tickets to the masters, Absolut. Yeah. Um, and whether you want to go for a day and absolutely not, um, ever get all expenses paid or, you know, I mean, be careful. I mean, don't overdo it. Don't be a jackass about it. Right. But absolutely. Get me to the Masters. Yeah. So a hundred percent, that was my take on that as far as like, you know, what, what's something that I can get from SPE that I can't get from anyone else? Yeah. Um, and that I feel like is one of the things. It's fair. I think that's, I mean, I want to charter Jet to the

Stoy Hall:

Masters. Yeah. In all my, all my stuff paid for. You know what? I'm not even gonna ask for you to walk me around the course. No,

Cole Ingle:

I don't. No, no. That I wanna be there Wednesday to Sunday. All paid for. Yep. That's it. Mm-hmm. And I wanna be aware to go be able to go to wherever the hell I want on the course. Good, good. Whatever the v i p whatever the v i p is at the master's, I want two of them. Right. And I want, I just want an all expense master's trip for two. Yeah, let's do it.

Stoy Hall:

Uh, so through nearly two rounds of the players this, this year, um, all of the following scores have been shot. A one, a two, a three, a four, a 5, 6, 7, 8, and nine and a 10. 10. That's awesome. Yeah. Can't imagine that's happened very many times. No,

Cole Ingle:

it just kinda shows you the gut, the type of golf course, um, and the frustration it can create for these. because anytime a, a pro golfer is making, I mean, I would even really say an eight through a 10. There's frustration causing, ah, a stroke or two, um, whether it's a missed tap in which we saw a couple different times out of frustration, um, a duffed chip back into the water or back into a bunker, something like that. Uh, so, you know, that's just a Pete Die course for you.

Stoy Hall:

Here it is. So, um, the, the guy who bounced off, by the way, what he

Cole Ingle:

actually got,

Stoy Hall:

he's a Marine by the way, which is dope. Mm-hmm. And then what he actually got was, uh, tickets for the weekend in a signed flag. Yeah. So I really hope there's more privately mm-hmm. because if not, like to me this feels like this was from the players also

Cole Ingle:

that doesn't even himself. I mean, that must have been the next day because he wasn't wearing that shirt when he got hit. He was wearing a blue shirt. So,

Stoy Hall:

um, but I feel like this came from the players championship themselves. Mm-hmm. There has to be something else Pete does. I You don't, I mean, you don't make 275,000 legitimately off somebody. Yeah. And just be like, here's a flag with my name on it. Right?

Cole Ingle:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. This, so, so what's wrong with this pause real quick? Um, I just don't want to run through what we're gonna watch, but. So far this year, the biggest problem with golf, um, and all of the great things that they've been doing, don't get me wrong, but the biggest problem with golf is pace of play. Um, we're seeing a lot of changes in baseball. We're, we're going to see a lot of changes in golf, um, from a field cut type of thing and, and stuff like that. There are pace of play rules in play. Um, they seem to be sporadically enforced, but we're, I mean, we're seeing rounds of golf multiple times this year. Almost every round that we've seen has had to have an extension of play into the next morning, um, Friday to Saturday, um, because we're not finishing before daylight. Some

Stoy Hall:

of that's daylight savings time,

Cole Ingle:

right? We get that. Uh, so, you know, maybe we're out of that, but that should just never happen. And when we're talking about almost six hour rounds of golf, ugh, this to me is the number one thing that can be eliminated. And the biggest reason I say that is you, we can roll it now. So this caddy is going to pretty much stand in for a professional golfer. I'm honestly, this is Hoggy actually, this is Hoggy on, this is actually Hoggy on Saturday. This is Hoggy, the day he shot his, uh, 72. So I mean, literally the caddy is taking the putt. So like, I mean, there's a good 30 seconds right there before hoi steps. Everybody needs to understand one thing. When young kids all the way through high school, and I, I don't wanna say this for certain, but I'm fairly certain, even college, your caddy cannot even help align You, let alone stand over the ball, stand over the putt without a putter. Like the only rule they have is that once Hoy addresses this ball and the ball is on the ground, that he can't stand and watch hoy's alignment. If the marker is still on the ground, which a lot of guys is, what you'll see a lot of guys do, they can still set alignment. At that point, it's all bogus because a six year old kid on the little kid's PGA can't have their dad come out and help'em line up a putt. What the hell are we doing? I mean, I get the, hey, looks like it's right to left. Like, you know, you're in a best ball type of read. Like go take a look at it. You should never, as a caddy, get to stand in a line. Mm-hmm. or stand over a golf ball. And if you remove those two things, you would speed up around a golf. I would say by at least 20 to. 25 minutes. If no caddy could stand over a line, you can stand behind it and you can stand on the other side about it. I don't care. Because you can do all of those things while other guys are doing something.

Stoy Hall:

You also, they also get to the green before you do.

Cole Ingle:

Right. So once you're there, the only person who should be reading and or addressing the golf ball and or any type of line between the golf ball and the hole is the player for multiple reasons. One is time, but two is like that. Caddy should not be anywhere near the hole unless he's taking the pin out or putting the pin bag in. Correct. Which make

Stoy Hall:

your read, then they're fine. And

Cole Ingle:

that's fine. But at every level up until the PGA you don't get hell, you don't even get a caddy shit. Right. You know what I mean? Like, let alone can the caddy tell you how to putt? I mean, I get it. You, you still have to go out there and make the stroke. But I mean, if you want to talk about all the things in golf that just need removed, this just needs removed. Um, let's remove it. I'm

Stoy Hall:

down so

Cole Ingle:

I, we all vote. I don't know if that's a hot take or what, but I mean that it's just egregious at this point. Um, with all of the line reading, like if the players want to do it and that's their process and they can keep pace fine, but right now we're not keeping base. Um, so get rid of it. Damnit damn it. That is one of my favorite ones of the weekend bar Stool. Trent, uh, who's the star of breaking 90 now, I think, uh, I think he's down to 90 cuz he was breaking a hundred. He broke a hundred, but I still don't think he's broke 90 yet. Yeah. So,

Stoy Hall:

um, I recently complained after walking 18 holes, time to take a hard look in the mirror. Yeah. When after, uh, by the way, he, uh, retweeted, uh, the PGA tour. Mm-hmm. Scotty Scheffer's, 88 year old grandmother, Mary. Mm-hmm. has been with Scotty all week and just powering through

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. Powering through, walked every single hole with him on the players. So yes, for those counting at home, that's 72 holes. Um, when you play a round of golf, on average you're going to watch, walk somewhere between five to seven miles. So, I mean, ultimately she walked about 20 to 25 miles, uh, with Scotty, uh, on the week if she was there Thursday to Sunday. That's what it said. I don't, I don't know if she did or didn't, um, but really made me, uh, you know, think about walking more. We should when, I mean it's actually more in, I mean, in some ways it's more enjoyable golf. Um,

Stoy Hall:

but, and it really doesn't slow you down that much because

Cole Ingle:

we usually are button up to It's all relative to the group you're playing with. Correct. the further, I mean, we hit it far enough. that when we're walking to the ball, like the walking, we're not, we're not pulling up to our ball most of the time. 40 yards to 150 yards out, which is what slows paces of power, right? So, um, yeah. Um, yeah. But specifically us. Yes. We should walk more. We should,

Stoy Hall:

for multiple reasons. Let's try it. Let's do it. I've never walked, ever. Uh, I, I take that back. I've walked nine.

Cole Ingle:

You've never walked 18 holes of golf, ever. Oh, first round of golf. This year we're walking. Never.

Stoy Hall:

All right. I enjoyed the nine. I actually played one of my best, best route. Best nines. Yeah. Hey, get in

Cole Ingle:

the cart. Um, get in the cart. Fatty.

Stoy Hall:

Mainly cuz I think I have a, I have an issue. My shoe was like, I get going really, really fast. So I'm always ready to hit. I always want to hit, like, I always just wanna hit like, let me hit like I just let me hit, but if you had to walk to it, we don't have to walk. Think through. I already knew where I'm out. Okay, cool. And then you just kind of hang out. It's beautiful. Your breathing slows down. Do you get over the ball and go? Okay, cool. I'll just hit the ball. Right. There you go. So that's where I'm at. But uh, shooting Mc Gavin introducing myself can help myself. The Scotty Chef's grandma. This one, this one

Cole Ingle:

had me laughing out loud. Happy Gilmore reference there for those, uh, who are not aware too young. But, uh, yeah, this it is too funny. And his grandma actually kind of looks like her. Yeah. So, so worked. It worked a lot. Worked. It played well.

Stoy Hall:

And Scotty won. Got money. Like it all works. Yeah, all works. Alright. Here we're, here's that.

Cole Ingle:

Sam Burns, uh, going for a Threepeat this week at the Valspar Championship in Florida. Uh, since 1995. Uh, 10 golfers, uh, or no, 10 instances of a player winning a third, a third, excuse me, uh, or fourth in consecutive time in the p g a tour event. Steve Stricker at the John Deere Classic. Stewart Applebee at Maui and Tiger Woods eight times. I don't know. So I stand corrected. There. There was only, only, yeah, there's only two. Two.

Stoy Hall:

And Tiger. Yeah. Um, I want to say this though. The only reason it says Oh, or fourth guarantee it's tiger. Oh, absolutely. Like, let's, like you have to add in or fourth just to make the stat work, right? And I think that just, uh, that rounds up, uh, our golf Twitter. So before we get into March Madness, um, there's only just a couple, um, we're just gonna do a little bit. There's a taste, a teaser, a teaser into, uh, a tea. Don't be teasing, just a little teasing into free agency. Okay? Uh, next week we're gonna hit free agency hard, as you know, it opened up, uh, tomorrow technically, I believe. Um, and there's just a couple of things that are happened, but we'll download you as our teams go through. Again, mainly because this is all about March Madness. Mm-hmm. we'll have the little bit of recap there going into our picks. We also show art brackets starting next week as well. But yeah, a couple, uh, I don't wanna say big. This isn't our biggest for the Falcons. Most intriguing for me because I was the one last year that said, I, I just despise this guy Taylor Heineke signs as our backup for a two year deal with 20 mil. Um, what are the commanders doing? I don't, that's what I'm getting at. This dude started for you one games and is a solid ass backup

Cole Ingle:

also. He's better than Ritter. I don't care how much you hate him. No,

Stoy Hall:

I hate him. So I wanted to, I'm gonna preface that. I, I just don't like his antics. Right. Hated it for that. But he's that player that on your team, you want him on your team. Yeah. He's just a douchebag outside of that team. Right? Is that like

Cole Ingle:

Kirk D cousins? Yeah. Well,

Stoy Hall:

no, I don't want cousins on my team either, but yes, yes. It, it kind of is. Um, I don't know. You like that? I don't know what the commanders are doing. Um, I think this is great for our team. Do you like the pickup? I do because they want Richard to be the starter, but he hasn't been pushed. He should have started over. Nevermind. We, we won't dive those not

Cole Ingle:

to be named.

Stoy Hall:

Um, so he's gonna push him. I he's not gonna just be like, I'm, I'll be a backup and teach you. He will if that competition comes out. But he's gonna compete. He's a, he's, yes sir. Apparently, um, research shows in the news shows that he is very good for the locker room. So all of those, what you want out of a backup? I don't, I don't know why you wouldn't want that. Um, not to mention, oh, on the Falcons boards. It's, okay. Cool. You have him as your. if, if Ritter falter either injury or just sucks. Mm-hmm. he can come in and, and support you for the year. Right. And get you to the gap year to get to next year's draft picks. Mm-hmm. or some other quarterback. So I, I I do like the overall. Yeah. And he didn't cost as much as I thought we were gonna spend. And then I, I have, we have to talk about it because it's like the first move the Cowboys decided to do. And day two, what do you think about it?

Cole Ingle:

I mean, I think it's solid because they're somewhat young in the secondary. Um, the Cowboys are acquiring, uh, former all pro, uh, Stefon Gilmore from the Colts. Um, best years are behind him, but it's still, you cannot be too deep in the secondary, uh, whether it be injuries, uh, different types of formations you're gonna face, uh, in the NFL in general. Uh, you, you can never have enough defensive backs, uh, who can cover one-on-one. Um, the more that you have, the more multiple you can be on defense, the more times Micah Parsons gets to be one-on-one in a pass rush, um, the more times your team's going to be successful. Yes. Uh, so only see good things here. You know, Campbell's gotta love it. Uh, on the back end. Quinn? Yep. Dan He's your

Stoy Hall:

de coordinator. Mark George. Do you want Campbell?

Cole Ingle:

Yes. No. Dan Quinn. Excuse me. Jeez. Um, complete, uh, brain fog there. Uh, no. Is gonna, yeah, Quinn is gonna love it on the back end. Excuse me. Um, wow. I just, we didn't lose anybody. Uh, so picking somebody up, it's the first thing we've really done in free agency. Uh, still need to cut. Dak still need to cut. Schultz. You're not cutting. D. Um, but that's, or not Dak. Excuse me. We need to cut Zeke. I'm just, yeah. Hey, we can cut Dak too. What the fuck? You know, I'm here for it. Let's just cut'em. Where's Hy? Can we pick up Heineke? Go ahead. Cut'em too. I don't care. Wait. D we'll send you Dak for Heineke. Yes. You can play Dak and we'll pay Heineke.

Stoy Hall:

We have a Dak. Ritter. Is

Cole Ingle:

Dak Okay. Transfer. Cool. Uh, no need to cut. Zeke need to cut. Schultz, um, need to add a receiver. Um, I don't know if we'll draft or pick up a running back and free agency as far as a backup, but you need to, um, but we don't really need to cuz the backup to,

Stoy Hall:

um, we have to get rid of Zeke. Oh, uh, what's

Cole Ingle:

his name? He's, uh, number 35. God, what's, yeah, I'm obviously doing, he's, I'm doing very well with names today, so I wasn't even gonna try pull that for sure. Our Pollard one and our backup two, and then you can pick up a guy off randomly squad for nothing. So, uh, not worried about the running back spot. Um, always continuing to grow, uh, defensive backfield and defensive line, uh, as well as solidifying o line percent. Uh, so I, I get it. We don't need to make a, like, that's the thing. We don't need to make a splash. No, you do, but we need to do something. Um, so I sent a buddy of mine today, the old poking it with a stick, you know, it's, yeah. Uh, dead animal, like, what is Dallas doing? Uh, so, uh, you're a team, not mine. They, uh, they didn't do something finally. They did.

Stoy Hall:

So, yeah. Uh, obviously the biggest, I guess, news overall is just this trade, and we didn't really speak about it, but I wanted to bring it up. Mm-hmm. Um, so update on the Bears trading. The number one overall picked Carolina. Uh, they pick up the number nine from Carolina 61, first round pick next year, second round pick the year after that and, and DJ Moore. Yeah. Um, when I first read this, I, I thought the comp picks were fine, like I the picks Cool. the DJ Moore. Um, that one shocked me. Uh, you could have got

Cole Ingle:

rid of, that's what won the trade for the Bears. I

Stoy Hall:

Oh, absolutely. Nailed it for them.

Cole Ingle:

Right? I mean, I feel like it would be either the first round pick in, I don't know. Is, is DJ more worth first round

Stoy Hall:

pick? Well, I, if you ever give up that, you have to get, if you're gonna give up a first round, well num, you know, obviously number one we're talking about number one, not just first round. If you give up this year's first round, you get their first round. Mm-hmm. he's worth a first round of next year, in my opinion. He's a first rounder himself. Right.

Cole Ingle:

That's what I'm saying though. So like of that, like to make the, like I think the Bears got away with murder here. Oh, absolutely. But my question is, is like what, what, uh, if you take away DJ Moore to make it fair, it feels unfair if you, if they just got the picks correct. Or if they got rid of the first round pick in 2024.

Stoy Hall:

Yep. And slid in dj. Absolutely. I just, and good for the Bears. They have a ton of money as well. Um, I know they've, and we'll get to it, but they signed a ton of, um, receivers and they, they're doing off season well, okay. Okay. They're doing well. This make to me, this makes up for the Trubisky debacle.

Cole Ingle:

We'll see, we'll see how it plays out.

Stoy Hall:

I don't disagree on paper right now. That's, Alright.

Cole Ingle:

You kind of made up for it honestly.

Stoy Hall:

You, you did how, I mean, will it, will it play out for you?

Cole Ingle:

I mean, the thing is you're getting Carolina's first round pick in 24, which is Carolina might be the worst team in the NFL next year, which is gonna be a top five pick,

Stoy Hall:

right? Mm-hmm.

Cole Ingle:

um mm-hmm. So, yeah, I just, that baffles me, uh, overall. Sure does.

Stoy Hall:

All right. Where did my, the reason I laugh at this one, where did it go? Um, the hell, what in the hell? Where'd it go? It was about Drake. Where did you go? Oh, right here, the rapper. Did you guys see this? Do you guys see this? Right? Says this tweet might include sensitive content. Oh, you wanna know what the content is? It's, it's this picture.

Cole Ingle:

Is this what we call a of us

Stoy Hall:

Huh? But of our squad winning It was sensitive content. Oh, I love it. Twitter, thank you. But for making it sensitive. Yes. For making it sense sensitive material. Here it is. You guys ready? This is, this is our segue. This is it. This is exactly, this is a segue for the first time since Wichita State in 2014, the NBC Men's and Women's. champions are from the same school. And let that be known. That is Drake University. Do you let u d be known? And this is also the first year that they let our mascot Griff. Yeah. This is Griff. The second, uh, Griff. Two. Two. The tournament in itself, they would've never allowed him in. Yeah. Ever. Yeah. I want you to know his record is six and Oh. Mm-hmm. And that's what the sensitive content was. It's picture of growth of of a dog. Of a dog.

Cole Ingle:

The real question is with the chip, have we figured out if he can be at the NCAAs? I don't know.

Stoy Hall:

Have we ever said that He better be, he's undefeated.

Cole Ingle:

I get it. That's why I'm saying he better be.

Stoy Hall:

But the tough part is, well no, they play, are they playing like a, it's a week apart?

Cole Ingle:

Well, they'll be in Albany Friday. Sunday. Yeah. Friday. Sunday. Well, one, do the girls play?

Stoy Hall:

I don't even know. So next

Cole Ingle:

weekend, right? Has to be No, they'll play Saturday. Monday, I think. So it's a lot of flying

Stoy Hall:

form Right. Uh, if, if it was, because I think they're playing the Cali somewhere. I don't know Matt. I mean, I don't remember off top of the head, but like there'd be a lot of travel for him. Mm-hmm. But he better be allowed. Yeah. And everyone's argument has been because he's a alive mascot. Right. He is a damn bulldog. Yeah. He, and by the way, for those that don't know, he doesn't move from his chair

Cole Ingle:

very often and nor does he stay awake,

Stoy Hall:

nor does he want to. So he is not going to be a menace to anything. He's not gonna go on the court in la lay a dookie. Like, no, none of that's happening.

Cole Ingle:

That guy's only dookie in one spot. And that's where he is laying. Let him be

Stoy Hall:

and let him come to the attorney. Let it happen. All right. Here we are. You ready? I don't, we don't have a March madness

Cole Ingle:

button. No, I mean I think we just,

Stoy Hall:

uh, but it's happening this year's tournament. 2023. I meant like 16 brackets it feels like already. Uh,

Cole Ingle:

yeah, I've declined a lot of brackets. I can, because I mean, I can't put a mortgage payment on all the brackets. I mean, you can, uh, I'm not that good a brackets. Yeah, I'm not either. Um, I said I might as well. I was talking to a coworker today and I was like, I might as well just take all of the money I'm spending on brackets and put it into one of my either FanDuel or DraftKings accounts and at least have a chance at winning. Yeah. Right. Like, I mean, I had, oh, I literally, so I started tracking'em on my notes and I am in seven, um, six, no, I'm an eight six, uh, N C A A, uh, basketball two n c a wrestling, and I have declined nine. did you decline

Stoy Hall:

the one I sent you? Yes. How that one you win no matter what.

Cole Ingle:

I, in what way? Because you, you can win. I didn't, I didn't decline it. I just haven't accepted. That's, that's fair. It's still available,

Stoy Hall:

but that one's awesome because that one you can win throughout the time. First of all, um, if you are the, you get the worst points. Yeah. Money back. Mm-hmm. you get paid if you are the best each round. Right. And it's different than your normal pick. So you pick your one through 16. I get it.

Cole Ingle:

And it's, it's pretty fun. I still have to trust myself to pick those correctly.

Stoy Hall:

Well, I mean, there is that right? But you have more opportunities to win your money back is all I'm saying. So it's not like

Cole Ingle:

a, the brackets that I'm in, I'm in a fundraising bracket for my nephew. Um, I'm in a family bracket always. Um, I'm in a seed capture bracket, so that is totally blind draw the, whatever teams you get, you get one through 16, doesn't matter. It is captured based on, uh, spread coverage. So literally I have my, I mean, how many family members do we have in that? Let's see, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10. Um, so we all have what, six or seven? Whatever team. Yeah. Or no? We all have, do we have only eight? Two? No, there's only eight. There's only eight of us. So we all have eight. Cuz you capture the Yep. The 11 seat is whoever wins in the 16th seat, whoever wins. So yeah, we all have eight. But literally just random. It's completely random. You can play yourself if you run, like if you happen to get the five and the 12. Yeah, like whatever. So yeah, everybody has eight teams and we put 20 bucks in per family, and that looks fun. So like, that's completely different. I'm in a select your or a blind draw. Um, you get one, one through four seed, one five through eight seed, one nine through 12 and one 13 through 16. Um, so there's 16 guys in that bracket. Everybody gets four teams, one from each tier. And it's also, I think that one's only a surviving advance. I don't think it's a spread, uh, coverage one. So that's four. Um, I'm in a seed multiplier bracket, that I've been in since high school. Woo. Uh, so it's obviously you get bonus. It's a bonus point, seed difference. Bonus point. Yeah. So if 11 seed beats a sixt to get six seed to get five bonus points, uh, so you're rewarded. Um, but obviously you don't get any points if they don't advance. Right. So, um, that one and then I don't even know, um, honestly, and then I'm in two different college wrestling brackets because I've, I've kind of fallen in love with college wrestling as well. Um, I enjoy watching the state tournament here in Iowa. Obviously wrestling's big in Iowa. Um, Basketball has become. Yeah. Um, wrestling's always been big in Iowa. It was big as how po where I went to high school. Um, we've been ranked nationally at, in, at the high school level for years. Uh, and I've gotten into college wrestling as well. And that's, that's just as fun. So I'm in a, a blind capture bracket, uh, for that as well as a, um, kind of a multi pick em where you get a, a bank of money, um, to select your, those are fun wrestlers. So yeah. So many. Any any women's brackets? Brackets? Uh, I have filled out a women's bracket, um, and my sister has a group of people that are running one. So that is actually another one that I am in, uh, in Denver, um, for the group of people she has out there. Woo. But I mean, for me to be fair, women's and I tell people this, uh, you can go chalk, um, a little bit that specifically you're ones and twos for a while. Um, a women's seed has won 10 years in a row. So, I mean, to your point, the thing that's gotten a much more, uh, exciting about women's college basketball is just like the last three years, probably three to five years specifically. Um, the upsets, the mid-majors are getting a lot closer. Um, you know, they, they have had one, one B to 16 in the women's game, uh, and it was way back in like 97. Yeah. Uh, of all, not recently like the men's, but um, like South Carolina is a heavy favorite in the women's game, but I've always told people and I watch more women's basketball than probably 95% of society, and that might be low. Um, because of my sister and because I grew up, um, watching her coaching, um, high school basketball and, and the works. Um, that if I could consistently bet one sport, um, I would absolutely slay women's college basketball.

Stoy Hall:

So do it. Um, you know, you

Cole Ingle:

can bet on it, right? Yeah. But I mean, you can't get it consistent. Like you can't get enough to to, to consistently get it. Like DraftKings, you can't get it at all. Yeah. Fdu, you can see it every once in a while, but like, but you don't get locally like bet Freds does it. Um, stuff like that. I just, I'm not on enough apps and like, not evident enough about it, but like, if it was mainstream, like most of the other stuff is, um, I would be on betting apps way more often because one, I mean it's a little bit more predictable, but I also like, like I said, I watch those games more and the more you watch, the more like that game is easier to predict. The more you watch matchups are just so much bigger. Yeah. Um, than, you know, you know, there's certain teams that might be like eight and nine, um, teams overall in the. and this team just absolutely, there's no way their style is ever gonna beat that team. Yeah. Uh, from a matchup perspective, um, you know, and there's other ones you definitely gonna miss once in a while, but for the most part, like the matchups absolutely matter and the styles matter way more. Um, so to me, like if you're willing to, to put the time in and watch it, like one, it can be an enjoyable, um, experience, but two, you can also, like, you can get a pretty good feel for who's doing what,

Stoy Hall:

when, and why. Yeah. So let's talk about the two best 12 seeds in both brackets. Yeah. Um, you know, honestly, Drake University on

Cole Ingle:

the map. Yeah. Uh, getting a lot of love. They were getting a lot of love before they even had a matchup. Yeah. Which is great. Nationally.

Stoy Hall:

Um, you know, the women, is it great getting the love or getting in? Come on. No,

Cole Ingle:

getting in is great. Getting, getting the love, like, do you want, like, do you want to be the low, I mean obviously the 12 five is the most, I mean, we can just jump into it. 12 five is the most, talked about upset and they happen every year. Mm-hmm. um, haven't happened as much the last two years. Actually, when I was looking, uh, 11 Seeds has actually had quite a bit of his success. 13 seeds. No, which is, did you know,

Stoy Hall:

did you know that the, the top upset seed, um, at a, at a 51% clip nine eights. Now, obviously you're gonna have that be because they're Yeah. So similar, but 51% in iron seeds beat eight, and then it's like still a coincidence. And then I think it's 12 fives or. 30%. Mm-hmm. 35%. So pretty good clip. Yeah. And if you, I'm just saying that as you go through your bracket, which mm-hmm. you probably have already done, is when you get down to that and, and that's Yeah. Where you're at. I would probably lean towards the percentages.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. And you have to see, um, you know, kind of how the matchups play out, how the brackets play out. Um, this year, I think the brackets we already knew going in college, basketball parody, uh, first couple of rounds specifically. Definitely episode's gonna happen. The brackets are, um,

Stoy Hall:

I don't, they could have been better. They're unbalanced. Yeah. They

Cole Ingle:

could have been. They could have been better. Um, I don't like, however, geography or whatever it was they were taking into consideration came into play. Um, weird, overweight, um, some brackets and made some brackets. Completely weak. I honestly think that the Iowa teams all got good matchup draws. Um, not so much necessarily from a site draw perspective, but,

Stoy Hall:

and let's, uh, um, we'll get into that. We'll pull up the chart. Yeah. We'll, uh, just wanted to get in some update. Yeah. Because there is a game going on. It has started. It has started. Um, and we've got the Islanders verse, the Red Hawks.

Cole Ingle:

Um, it's 16 Southeast Missouri against, uh, Texas Corpus Cor Corpus Christie. Yeah.

Stoy Hall:

I, excuse me, I'm just gonna call'em the redhawks and the Islanders. All right. Uh, Islanders are the Texas team. Yeah. Okay. Just gonna look. We for records there. Uh, we've got, uh, 19 and 16 for the Red Hawks. Yeah. And 23 and 10 for the island. Oh, yeah. I'll

Cole Ingle:

take the islanders. Yeah. Who they're

Stoy Hall:

up for. Perfect. As we speak. Love it. 1248 left in the game. Also tonight, the later game. Oh, hold on. Also breaking news. Ohoh, Matt Ryan and Indian Lapis decided to part ways. They saved 17 million in cap space, so that is not a surprise. Matt Ryan's retiring. Right? Who knows. Okay. Um, but probably he'll probably sign with the Falcons, um, and then retire. God,

Cole Ingle:

yeah. Hopefully. As, as, as our third string.

Stoy Hall:

Never know. Wish he'd have been on the team last year. Uh, any who, uh, the night game tonight is pit verse Mississippi State, which is obviously the better of the two. Yeah. So,

Cole Ingle:

and the winner of that game, uh, just to know. Oh, good. Good. Let's, we'll play Iowa

Stoy Hall:

State. Let's, yeah. Let's get into it. So let's, let's get into our bracket a little bit. Let's, we'll walk through this, obviously we're gonna put together a, a joint bracket right here as we speak. Yeah. Live. Um, the other will be, we'll put up our brackets next week. Mm-hmm. Um, and we'll go through round by round and let you know how that goes. So, um, obviously let's stop at, start at. Start the game that's live

Cole Ingle:

right now. Um, so Texas Corpus Christi playing southeast Missouri for the right, uh, to play into the number one overall seed, uh, in the bracket in the south region, uh, Alabama. Um, I mean that one's a pretty, yeah, that one's pretty cut and dry. Let's, let's, we'll

Stoy Hall:

cheers as we're getting into another segment. Start of the segment. Yeah. Start of ma March madness.

Cole Ingle:

Madness to the madness, to the mad madness. Begin?

Stoy Hall:

Yep. Mouthwash. That's the best one. The madness Begin. Obviously Bain's gonna win that one. Let's, let's, yeah, let's not get crazy. Nope, I've already done that. Stop you all at

Cole Ingle:

me. All right. So Alabama is the one, um, they are going to take on the winner of two out large teams, um, in, in very,

Stoy Hall:

do you remember how to zoom in case it's not too good. Nah, it's good. Bloody, yeah. Don't worry about it. Uh,

Cole Ingle:

difficult. But, uh, conferences, we got Maryland and Virginia, or West Virginia, excuse

Stoy Hall:

me, probably in Thursday at, uh, 1215. Yeah. What do you, what do you feel about this one? Uh,

Cole Ingle:

this is a matchup of two teams who are physical, uh, who have beaten some top 25 teams playing in, in some tougher conferences. Yep. Uh, West Virginia. Um, we're gonna see their strength and schedules fourth for West Virginia. Um, they have some guys that can score, uh, a little bit higher, or I, I'd say faster pace for them. Their squad this year, uh, have been known as a grinded out type of team over the years. Uh, still gonna play very physical, um, going to press and stuff like that, but just playing a little bit more, uh, up pace on offense this year than they have been in the past. Uh, I, I like West Virginia in this game. Um, you know, overall West Virginia 19 and 14, one of the worst records, uh, to get in as an at large. But, uh, just too tough of schedule and, and too many good wins, uh, to keep them out of the tournament. They weren't even ever really even on the bubble. Um, might have been on maybe one of the first four or last four in, but, uh, there was never really too much discussion whether they were getting in. They got in at a nine. Yeah. So, um, you know, 8, 9 50, what'd you say? 51%. 1% going to the nine seed. Um, I dislike what West Virginia brings here. I don't think the physicality that is known in the Big 10, um, is really a th like, that's not gonna overwhelm them or anything like that. Um, neither team is great. Um, on the road or, and neither team has played a neutral site game this year. Um, West Virginia has one road win in the Big 12 and I think Maryland had zero Yep. Uh, in their last 10 games. So I, yeah. Uh, just one of those things where I, I don't, I don't, I see this being a tight game, but I think West Virginia fans a way to pull it out. I

Stoy Hall:

agree. Um, this one I can go either way with. I really don't have a problem. Yeah. Um, I would play the odds more on this one. Uh, they just have played again, big 10, big 12, probably top two conferences in the league.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. I think this game will be a pick him or dang close

Stoy Hall:

how cool he is. I just think that overall West Virginia is in better form and really it shows just from the last performances. Yeah. Look around here. Mm-hmm. Um, and so that's where I would, if you're gonna lean, I have to lean on this one cuz it's apic. Right. I would agree to you with West Virginia. Now this is where a lot of people are talking about, uh, the first upset. Yeah. The first five 12. 12 five. Mm-hmm. um, on Thursday, um, happening. How do you feel

Cole Ingle:

about that? So we've got San Diego State, the Aztecs, uh, playing the Charleston, um, I dunno what they are. College Charleston, um, South Carolina. Um, it is the College of Char. The coat. Yeah. No, you're right. But I have no idea what they are. Yes. I'm not, I'm not sure what they, what they are. Um, the Cougars. Cougars, love that. Cougars, cougars, Aztecs, CS. Um, this is a game of very different pace and very different style. Yeah. Um, college of Charleston wants to play very fast. They're 31 and three. Um, we're 16 and two in the Colonial Conference. Won their conference, um, coming in as a 12 seed. Uh, I think they're nine and one in their last 10, or no, 10 and oh in their last 10. Uh, San Diego state's nine and one, their only loss was to, uh, Utah State, I believe Boise.

Stoy Hall:

Boise State. Boise State. Not a good one.

Cole Ingle:

Um, not bad actually. Well, Utah, up top, it's 62

Stoy Hall:

57. Their last loss you said. Oh, so they

Cole Ingle:

lost to Boise State in the tournament then? Yeah. Um, either way. Um, both teams playing good basketball. Um, San Diego State, I believe won the regular season of the Midwestern conference, if I'm not mistaken. Um, but lost in the championship to Utah State flipped. Um, so that's regular season game though? Oh, that's not, yeah, it's not showing the conference tournaments on there. Um, but either way, um, just contrasting styles here. I had this one picked in my bracket as an upset. Um, simply from a, a pace of play standpoint, I really don't have a feel on this game. Strength of schedule throughout the year. Uh, I am impressed by South Dakota or South Dakota, San Diego State's strength of schedule is seventh. Um, I don't know what would cause that to be so high. The, the Mountain West conference cannot be that good, uh, for it to be seventh. So what is this? Uh, that's interesting to me. Uh, I'm gonna say that's inflated. Uh, neither team has a top 25 win this year. Uh, net rank 51st for College of Charleston, 14th for San Diego State. And I am still going to, to lean towards College of Charleston, uh, being able to up the pace and, uh, outs quorn them.

Stoy Hall:

Yeah. A lot of people are calling this one up. Said I, the thing I'll say about that is 31 wins is impressive. I don't care. Huh? Who?

Cole Ingle:

I mean, so it's 27. Don't get us wrong or

Stoy Hall:

what's happening there. Um, but that, that's something to say that that's something to say. So if you want that 12 five, I'll take it. Yeah. Uh, you're, you know, I'll have to overrule you at some point, but I, I'm, I'm okay with that one as well. Um, a lot of pendants are also calling this next four, three, uh, Virginia over Ferman. Yeah. Ferman over Virginia. They're also calling this one too. I, I disagree on this one. I wholeheartedly disagree with this one. Okay. I don't know if people have watched,

Cole Ingle:

uh, lately. Yeah. Virginia's playing better basketball finally. I think they're healthy. Uh, I think they've kind of figured out, uh, some things. So I think we're on Virginia here. Yeah. Um, I don't think we need to, to get too deep in here in Six State Creighton six 11. Uh, this has been one 11 Seeds, like I said, have been very successful in the last several tournaments. Mm-hmm. um, making deep runs. Um, we're not talking about, you know, winning a game or an upset. We're talking about making Elite Eight type of runs. Uh, so, you know, NC State just isn't the team in my mind that's going to do that. Uh, struggled a little bit down the stretch. Uh, don't have a lot of impressive victories. Uh, I think Creighton's played in a lot tougher overall conference, um, and a lot tougher games. I agree. Um, and so therefore, um, I just, I don't, I don't CNC state, uh, getting this done, uh, credence healthy. Um, and I I, I'm not seeing the upset on the six 11 in this game. No,

Stoy Hall:

I concur in that. Um, the next one people are, I haven't have heard much about Baylor in this one. Obviously Baylor's gonna win this one.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. Baylor's healthy. They're playing uc. Santa Barbara, right? Um, also a really good team. Um, might give them a scare in the first half, but, um, Baylor has all of their pieces back together finally. Yes. Uh, their big man's back. Healthy, their guards are healthy. Um, well, you know, that might be some foreshadowing for what I feel about Baylor moving through the tournament, but, um, yeah, they're Baylor running away now. Uh, very intriguing game here. This one. Um, I like this one. Two really, actually, really compelling styles. Mm-hmm. um, very similar. Um, you have two teams that I think have kind of gotten, I mean, Missouri specifically has gotten healthy. They finished 24, 9, 11 and seven in the s e c, uh, Utah State won the mountain. That's, yeah.

Stoy Hall:

So we're good. And we're good. And we're back. I mean, live wise, we've been here

Cole Ingle:

four. Missouri was 24 and nine. and 11 and seven in the S E c Utah State, 26 and eight, 13 and five in the mountain West Utah State. Uh, ran through the mountain west. Uh, won the conference. Tournament, got themselves a tene. They were on the bubble. Uh, it looked like they were gonna be last four in regardless of championship result, but you never know. Uh, ask, ask Ru Rutgers in Oklahoma State how they feel about that. Yeah, no shit. Um, couple of teams that that feel like they might have got, uh, shunned a little bit, but, uh, Utah State can shoot it. Uh, Missouri can also shoot it. Missouri loves to get up and down. Uh, you know, 40% almost from three for Utah State. Uh, 36% from Missouri. So these are two teams, uh, I look forward to a shootout in this one. A tough game for me to call. Um, Kobe Brown is Missouri's stud, um, actually named after or for Kobe Bryant. Um, he's a, a big dude that, uh, can get to the rim but also can shoot. They got a couple other guys there that can get up and down. And then Utah State just, I mean, that's just the way they play. Uh, they're gonna run the floor. They're gonna spread five guys that can shoot the three. And I have Utah State winning this game. Uh, in I think a majority of my brackets. I think I might have Missouri coming out in won. These are two teams that are, it doesn't matter who wins this game, um, they are gonna give the two seed trouble. Um, whether they can upset'em or not, I don't know. I like both of these teams. I hate that we have to pick. My Leann is Utah State, just being a little bit better at shooting the basketball and probably a little bit better at taking care of the basketball. But I mean, we're talking about both teams, averaging 79 points a game and Utah State giving up, you know, five point lets, five points less a game. So I'm gonna lean towards that, uh, just

Stoy Hall:

a little bit. That's, and that's what I'm doing. My, my stats, there's two stats here. I'm looking at opponents, opponents points per game. Mm-hmm. and then I'm looking at three point percentage. Oh. And when I get to a, a game that's like, hey, it pick them. Where were we at? Mm-hmm. I'm gonna rely on those two stats and both of them line up for me. Yeah. So I'm going to Utah State. All

Cole Ingle:

right. Utah State is with a, uh, a small upset. Yeah. Lake Missouri will be favored in that game, but not by a lot. Uh, so Utah State with small upset in that game, moving to the two 15 game, Arizona as the two seed in the south bur, uh, region. And they will take on the Ivy League champion Princeton Tigers. Yeah. This one's not gonna

Stoy Hall:

be close.

Cole Ingle:

Um, yeah, I, I mean I think that, uh, you know, if Princeton does something different or comes out and throws Utah stays favorite right now by the, uh, uh, throws a wrench in something, you know, maybe Arizona takes a little bit to recover, but Arizona State has too many athletes, uh, I think they end up pulling away in that game. Yeah. Um, in the south region. So south region is done. Do we wanna move through regions all the way, or do we wanna go one at a time?

Stoy Hall:

No. Oh, do one on time. We'll do it one more time. All right. We'll go stage by stage.

Cole Ingle:

Uh, next region. East region.

Stoy Hall:

East to the east number. East to east. Geez. Stop moving number one.

Cole Ingle:

Wait. Um, what? I think we need to go Midwest next. We'll go Midwest. See if we're going in

Stoy Hall:

order. Okay. Midwest Houston, north Kentucky. Now the thing about Houston, I we're going with it. You've already

Cole Ingle:

decided so Well, no, no. I'm trying to go in order of how the NCA seated them. I don't give a shit. No, that's right. No, it's not. Craig was late. No. Houston's number two overall seat though. Oh, that's true. I couldn't see, I can't see because of the camera. Who's up there? Uh, so number one or number one in the Midwest, Houston.

Stoy Hall:

Um, they're, they're their be best players

Cole Ingle:

hurt. They're the number two overall seed though. And the reports from everyone are the sasser positive is going to come back. He did warm up

Stoy Hall:

play. He just didn't wanna play. Why would he play in the championship? I, no, I don't. He would not

Cole Ingle:

know that he'll play in the first round. I don't think they need him to play in the first round. No. Um, I think he'll warm up again. Mm-hmm. Um, I think he'll practice to a point. Um, I, if he plays, I'd be surprised. Uh, they are going to need him in round two in order to make a run. Uh, he is the difference between Houston being one of the number one seeds that gets upset early versus Houston being a potential national. Uh, and it's that big, uh, Houston. Is that good? They are deep enough to be really good without him. Thank you. Uh, but they need him. He got hurt last year and was out for the year, uh, or most of the year. So it was really crappy to see him go down, um, when he did. It's a groin injury. Um, we all know that those suck. Did you see it too? Oh yeah. I mean, he just, he slipped on the floor next

Stoy Hall:

day. The next day I had to go do, um, I, I just decided to do like some side shuffles. Mm-hmm. and like, you just feel it. I had to because I felt like I was hurt. Like I watched it. I

Cole Ingle:

was like, I needed to do it for him. I need to make sure I'm good. Yeah, yeah.

Stoy Hall:

Um, let

Cole Ingle:

alone him. But yeah. So Houston, uh, the one seed, we, they're playing northern Kentucky. Uh, don't need to dive too deep into that. Houston, Houston advancing this one for the Iowa

Stoy Hall:

folks. Yeah. Here we go. First Iowa team in, by the way, there's three of them. So,

Cole Ingle:

uh, eight, nine. We've got the Hawks. Uh, 1913 overall. 11 and nine in the Big 10, uh, they ended up being, uh, an eight seat overall in the tournament. Had a chance to be significantly higher had they won their last game and or won a couple of games in the Big 10 tournament. They did not. Um, which has been their kryptonite. Um, overall is shooting on the road. They're playing Auburn, however, Who is categorically, categorically worse on the road than Iowa. However, Auburn somehow as a nine seed against an eight seed, gets to play two and a half hours from home. Um,

Stoy Hall:

the whole Midwest bracket from a, from a like a location standpoint doesn't

Cole Ingle:

make any DM sense. No damn sense. So this is the Midwest, first of all, we'll talk about it when we get to the West, but Kansas should have been the Midwest seed here, uh, over Houston and they weren't. But however, the

Stoy Hall:

Des Moines in the west bracket, correct. Make that

Cole Ingle:

make sense? Yeah. Yes. Um, so again, I don't, I don't know how old that works. I don't, I'm not gonna pretend to however, uh, Iowa, Auburn, uh, Auburn 20 and 12, 10 and eight in the s e c, uh, two completely different styles. Iowa 80 points a game. Auburn 72, Iowa gives up 74 points a game, uh, Auburn only 67 earlier this year. Uh, just to give you a little bit of reference, um, Northwestern shouldn't be Auburn 42 to 40, like very early in the season. 82 total points. So that tells you how, like, what that's style like. That's the Auburn. I mean, we can see right here, Tennessee Auburn, which two very defensive teams. 46 43. This is not the pace Iowa wants to play at. No. Um,

Stoy Hall:

and when they do, it doesn't

Cole Ingle:

bode well. If Iowa can play in the high seventies to eighties, Iowa's going to win this game. Oh Lord.

Stoy Hall:

I didn't know that, by

Cole Ingle:

the way. Yeah, I mean, good. Right. So the thing is, is Iowa is two very, very different teams, um, on the road versus at home, but so is Auburn. But when we look at shooting statistics, um, overall, Iowa is a 34% three point shooting team. Auburn is a 31% three point shooting team. That's 175th and 321st in the country. The other item that comes into play here is that Iowa's like 40 plus percent at home and like 25 to 27% on the road. So like there, I mean we're talking drastically different. This is a neutral site, eh? It is, it is. And here's the thing is that Iowa fans, so Bartol, Iowa has reached out to Barstow, Alabama. Alabama absolutely hates Auburn. We know how big a rivalry this is in football to show up because I mean, there's probably not a lot of people traveling to watch Alabama. whoever wins tonight and whoever wins the Maryland, West Virginia game. No. I mean, there's gonna be some that come, but like there's a much better chance that an Alabama fan base can show up and root against Auburn. So Iowa is pulling from those fans. Um, and Iowa will travel decent, not great, but decent. Um, so there's a chance that you have a relatively neutral to, you know, maybe only 60 40 versus like 80 20 than it would be if anybody was really cared, uh, if these weren't football schools instead of basketball schools. Uh, you know what I mean? Like, uh, so I am taking Iowa simply because it's the lesser, somewhat lesser of two evils here. I, I hope it's Iowa, because I think the game will be more entertaining if Iowa wins. So I,

Stoy Hall:

I don't feel that way. Okay. Um, so this will be an interesting one for us to come back to. Yeah. I, I did the, the form that Iowa's in is not good and, and I want to point this out. Mm-hmm. um, overall

Cole Ingle:

is you see what Auburn's last 10 games are. Yeah. But do you see how many road games I Auburn's won? No,

Stoy Hall:

I get that. But I don't think the road thing, I don't think that matters.

Cole Ingle:

Like eventually they're gonna win one. Well,

Stoy Hall:

that they do st statistics, but also I just don't think a away matters in the NCAA tournament. I think that gets wiped out personally. Okay. Okay. Um, but the form you're in from taking Alabama to, to OT Tennessee, and I don't remember what they did in term, nor does this show us, which is stupid. It was a rivalry game, but all these teams are in and they've played well. Um, I, I can't say, I can't say that here.

Cole Ingle:

No, but if you look at the teams, Iowa's lost to this year. I'm not talking

Stoy Hall:

about this year. I'm just talking about the last five. Let's talk All I'm

Cole Ingle:

talking No, I'm just talking about in general and I'm gonna agree with you on this, is that Iowa has lost the teams that they should beat Correct. And beat the teams. So like if you look at the top half of the Big 10, Iowa was like, let's call it 75% winning percentage. And they lost, they were like 20% winning, winning percentage against teams like nine to 14 in the Big 10. They've lost a bad teams and beat the good teams. Auburn's not a good team. So that's where, that's where my lean is Auburn, until I see how bad Auburn is when they're not playing at home. This could be a really bad

Stoy Hall:

game. Bad game.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. Who wins a bad game? I mean, I'm, that, that's the only reason I lean to Iowa because I don't think either team. unless Iowa somehow gets hot at a neutral site, I don't think either team can give Houston. Oh, even remotely a game. This team,

Stoy Hall:

whoever comes out's losing.

Cole Ingle:

The thing is, is if Saar doesn't play, there's a chance Iowa has a better chance at beating Houston than Auburn does. Correct. Because of style of play. But do they get out of it? And, and that's, that's what all Iowa fans are talking about. That's what all the pundits are talking about is so true. Tyre, I think either way that we're going to have to agree whether we agree to disagree a little bit that Houston's moving on. So that game doesn't really matter overall and it's an end state. So we're probably, we're probably taking to Iowa,

Stoy Hall:

we'll, we'll lean to Iowa just cuz of being in state. But I, we'll be, I want you to know in every bracket I've took Auburn. We'll we'll be fan girls just like the next game. Yeah. And every bracket I have taken the one to know Bulldogs, drap bulldogs. Now this being said, we can dive into it a little bit and, and not too much overall because Yeah. One unknown that Miami has his problems, their big man's hurt. Yeah. Will he be available if he is? Well we have a little more trouble cuz our big man aren't, I mean, when Brody's on, he's on mm-hmm. when he is off, he's off. Yeah. And

Cole Ingle:

so with, but the nice thing with Drake is that they actually have a backup. Center they can go to this year, who can give them good, good visit. Good minutes. Absolutely. Um,

Stoy Hall:

and, and wanna go to my stats that I'm talking about? Yeah. Um, opponents, uh, scoring per game. Uh, clearly that's a, that's a 8.3% square spread. Mm-hmm. and our three point percentage is, is way hotter and we've been hotter shooting lately. Yeah. Um, and the right people are scoring. So, um, I don't think that bows as well for Miami as everyone thinks. I think it's very, very hot for us. Um, and a lot of people are picking us to upset them. So they are, um, good for

Cole Ingle:

us. I think we both agree that Drake is gonna move on. I will quickly say just because it's who Drake is playing, um, Miami, if they get past Drake has a good route. Yeah. Whoever wins this game has a, an extremely legitimate chance at making not only the Sweet 16, but an Elite eight, especially south. Um, this region is completely up for grabs. Uh, it is the weakest region in my opinion. Uh, overall, uh, from a top to bottom perspective, um, you know, if you want to call it most competitive, whatever the hell you want to call it, to spin it, but Miami has two to three guards that can score. They love to pressure the basketball. If Drake can handle the pressure, Drake can win this game. Right. If Drake can't handle the pressure, Drake can get blown out of this game. Yeah. If the Miami big man plays, it's a huge difference. Simply because that's another outlet for Miami to go to if Drake's pressuring the three point line, uh, less likelihood of being able to throw a junk zone, anything like that. And also Drake is actually, like Drake has depth this year. Um, it's why they've been successful late in the season. They're eight deep. Yeah. Um, they're able to play eight guys with trust and they have shooters, and they have grinders and they have Rebounders and they have a stud in Tucker. And so all of those things remind me of the Lolo run from two years ago. Mm-hmm. last year, two years ago. Two, two years ago. Um, and so like that's the optimist in me. Um, the pessimist is that Miami has a chance of making an elite eight. You're not, you're not wrong if they beat Drake. So does Drake though. Yeah.

Stoy Hall:

So does Drake, in my opinion, 0% chance we were gonna pick Miami. Yeah. Uh, Indiana Kin state, some have called this one an upset. I don't, I don't, I don't see it. Someone has to talk me into this one. Um, we can't go and we do have to speed along. We have a lot of games to get through. Right. Um, I don't see this one personally. If you have a different point of view, stop me. Um,

Cole Ingle:

Indiana shoots better, but Kent State can defend. Um, so if Indiana doesn't shoot it well and Kent State is able to get up and down points per games are about the same and it's just tough. But overall, like I have Kent State in this game. Okay. But I'm gonna let you override me on this one because in the last one, that's not, I just don't trust Indiana ultimately. No, I don't either.

Stoy Hall:

And this is why we talked about this bracket. Yeah. I also have them losing next round to, to

Cole Ingle:

whoever comes up to Drake or Miami. I don't care either

Stoy Hall:

one. Yep. So, and we'll get to that, uh,

Cole Ingle:

as we go Iowa State playing the 11 seed playin game. So we don't, I love Iowa State regardless of matchup. Mm-hmm. uh, I think Iowa State of the three schools got the best draw. I do too. Um, they got 11 seed draws. Mississippi State played actually in Des Moines and Drake dismantled their ass. Healthy and Pit does not play defense. Uh, they've got an older squad, but they play kind of an up tempo similar to Baylor. Yeah. And Iowa State was three and oh against Baylor this year. Um, so Iowa State's probably rooting for Pit, but if they get Mississippi State, like they'll know Drake beat the shit out of him. They did. I don't really. which is, I like Iowa State moving on here. Yeah, I do too. I do too. Um, Xavier Kennesaw State.

Stoy Hall:

I, I don't, some are calling this one. I I just think it's the only form of Xavier, but

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. Xavier, and we're not gonna see it here. They lost a two, Marquette 12 Who, who is on fire buzzsaw right now. Yeah. Right. And we'll talk about them. But the other thing is, save yours second best player or second best player is gone. Yeah. Um, and they have not played the same since the Marquette game and or the tournament. And so that being said, um, it's Kennesaw State. They lost eight games. Um, they lost three games in Atlantic Sun. Um, Xavier didn't lose to bad teams when they lost. This isn't, I don't see Xavier losing this game. No. And

Stoy Hall:

that's what I, I want everyone to realize, like their shooting percentage is huge. And when I started doing research, like I heavily on this, this is

Cole Ingle:

huge. I mean, their best players feeding into that, but at the same point, they lost some

Stoy Hall:

depth and they're not in this form. No. But could they get hot against Ken State and go on a run? Yeah, absolutely.

Cole Ingle:

I don't see, but this isn't the game they're losing. I don't see them losing that game. No, this isn't the, this isn't the one. Yep. I say in Penn State. Oh, oof.

Stoy Hall:

Uh, I don't know if you guys decided to watch the Big 10 Championship or not. I did. Mm-hmm. I, I like me some. Penn State. Yeah, I really do. Um, I think two of, they're shooting very, very well. Texas a and M's. Been, um, I mean they, they had a great year. They, they did have a great year. Um, to be fair, the last time I watched'em was in the Bama game and I just, it wasn't, it wasn't a good game to watch of them.

Cole Ingle:

So that's, I think Penn, Penn State is built for this tournament, the way that their team is built. Yeah, I agree. Um, I think you and I are on the same page here. We're gonna even need to go into depth too much on, I think we're both taking Penn Saint in this game. I think it's true. Uh, which is scary. Uh, a little bit. So that'll happen. Texas, Colgate, Texas, ah, Texas. We don't even need, no. Alright. East, uh, end of the east number three or no, actually yeah, it doesn't matter. But is three, because

Stoy Hall:

Kansas was the last cause I was sitting here

Cole Ingle:

going, but they were technically the number three. It would just, they were never gonna send Kansas East. No. Um, but so technically Purdue's the fourth overall seed. Yes, Purdue, uh, Purdue is going to win. Um, I've said there this Memphis, f a u might be the best matchup, uh, net rank for F A U for those out there. 31 and three 18 and two. Overall in conference usa they are 13 net rank and wooey. The thing is, they haven't played anybody in the top 25. So what's your metric based off of is the question there? Hundred ninth schedule, rank. Memphis has the woo. Memphis looks in. They're looking good. They're hitting their stride at the right time. Um, played well end the season and play. Played well, uh, to, to win their conference championship. Um, neither team shoots it particularly well from three, but both of them are feasible. Um, who do you have in New York? My lean's. Memphis. Yeah.

Stoy Hall:

I have Memphis. I have Memphis in every

Cole Ingle:

bracket and I think producing trouble. I I, no matter who, no matter

Stoy Hall:

who wins. We'll get to that next week. Uh, duke. We'll get to it. Or Roberts. Duke is hot. Yeah, they're healthy. It's actually the hottest team in the nation right now when Duke has played. They've got two, seven footers that could be

Cole Ingle:

point guards when Duke has played all of, when all of Duke's rotational players one through seven or eight have been healthy. Dukes 17 and one this year and undefeated at home. Um, they're healthy right now and they're playing well. But Oral Roberts is a good Yes. Freaking basketball team. Mm-hmm. Um, and that's the tough part about this. They put up points, they average 84 points. Just a couple. Um, that's just a couple points here, but, uh, I think ultimately, The size and ultimately the, the talent of Duke overcomes. Um, I've got Duke making a little bit of a run here, but simply because the bracket sucks. Don't tea, don't tease that the bracket sucks. I know, but don't tease that the east might be worse than the

Stoy Hall:

Midwest. That let's not tease that. All right. Tennessee, uh, Lafayette now Lafayette has lost to the one and only Drake University. Mm-hmm. just put it out there.

Cole Ingle:

Tennessee's defense man. Uh, 58 points a game. 58 points. They can't shoot for shit.

Stoy Hall:

No, they can't. Um, they have a

Cole Ingle:

tough time shooting. I don't know who Lafayette has in general, if they have some shooters and the shooters get hot, it's fine from three, they shoot 38% from three and only 68% from the line. So that, like, they better not drive. Tells me that like that. But they're, they're a prime tournament upset team. Mm-hmm. because simply because of that metric, they get hot, they're hot. Um, so I don't know who they have. Like if they have a guy that's a 25 point a game score doesn't matter. Um, I think Tennessee ultimately locks'em down and wins this game. Tennessee's point guard is out for the season. Yeah. Um, and that will definitely, uh, affect this bracket and I, in my opinion, Tennessee should not have been a four seed. I agree. Um, but here they are.

Stoy Hall:

Which is, which is back to the Duke thing. Yeah. Um, alright. Kentucky Providence.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. Um, Another game that's a toss up. A couple of teams who have been middling, toss up, Kentucky's gone back and forth. Um, Providence has lost quite a few close games. Um, they've lost a couple of games lately that they controlled in the first half and then lost in the second half. Um, big East I think is a sleeper. Uh, just overall, uh, from a conference perspective, um, I think there's a lot of good teams in the Big East. A lot of good value there. I don't agree so much with the S E c. Oh, I'm not, I don't trust Kentucky.

Stoy Hall:

I don't trust, I don't trust any s sec

Cole Ingle:

school. But let's be real. I mean, overall I've got Providence in this game. It's my one. I didn't have any other elevens. Uhhuh. if I'm being honest. Your 11? I don't either. So this is my 11. Okay. Um, if you wanna go that route, I rev it. I don't hate it. I don't think either team's advancing from there, but Nope, I don't either. Uh, I've got Kansas State over Montana State. Uh,

Stoy Hall:

I just, I just wanna put this up there for everybody, but there's no way Kansas State's losing this game. So let's, let's be honest, uh, I meant to click that.

Cole Ingle:

All right. Um, Kansas State meeting on Michigan State, usc, a lot of

Stoy Hall:

people talking about this

Cole Ingle:

one. I don't, my lane's usc, it sounds like your lean might be the opposite. Michigan State. Yep. Um, which if you look at the two metrics, I mean points for gamer directly even correct. This, and Michigan state's significantly better shooting, uh, shooting the basketball and tournaments. If you want to overtake, that's fine. Uscs just very long and I think can cause Michigan State some problems, uh, overall. And then lastly, Marquette, Vermont.

Stoy Hall:

Hey, Vermont has both their men's and Women's Inn. Yeah. Shout it out. That's legit. Absolutely. Only good teams do that. Marquette did it. And

Cole Ingle:

then in the biggest egregiousness of the tournament, we, we moved to the west region. Can we

Stoy Hall:

like the west, west region? Kansas is in the west. Let's just talk about

Cole Ingle:

that. First of all, ca so Kansas got screwed. Uh, they got however they're playing in Des Moines. Right. But I mean, that's early, that's when it doesn't matter.

Stoy Hall:

I know, but like why wouldn't they get Midwest throughout?

Cole Ingle:

Right. But when we look at the teams, it's gonna matter overall because the west, so the, the east of the Midwest are two very open brackets. Uh, depending on who you think's gonna get hot, what might happen, the upsets are gonna be there. I think. Um, the west, the south is solid. The south is fine. That's fine. The west is absolutely loaded and the bottom half of the west is unfair. It's so bonkers. Um, there are legitimately five teams I think can win a national championship out of 16 teams in the. I'm right with you. There might be two other teams combined. Yeah. It'll be, that's how unfairly seated I think the west was.

Stoy Hall:

This will be interesting to see how we talk through this because Absolutely

Cole Ingle:

insane.

Stoy Hall:

It's insane. And I don't, I I, from a committee standpoint, I, I get what you're doing, but I, I don't agree

Cole Ingle:

that you can't move. You can't. So Purdue the fourth overall seed Kansas is the third overall seed going west, which fine, you're not gonna move Kansas east to send Purdue West because you're still penalizing Kansas. Right. The problem overall is the bra. I mean we're, we will see here as we go through. So Kansas, Howard, we got Kansas moving on, not love, love from Howard. That's fine. Not even a discussion. Arkansas, Illinois. I'm just gonna let you pick this one. Bang.

Stoy Hall:

Um, I can't, I literally picked this one on the fact that nine seeds beat eight seeds. 51%. So you want tell him I lit. That was literally what I came down to.

Cole Ingle:

What, uh, what's, what's Illinois shoot from? Three 30.9? I mean, they're relatively shit. Neither team can shoot the three. Yeah. Illinois got length. They both suck at free throws. Um, this is even,

Stoy Hall:

this is even, I'll

Cole Ingle:

take, they're even across the board. We'll take Illinois then. I had Arkansas and a couple in Illinois and a couple, it doesn't matter to me, I think. Mm. Kansas moving on either way. Um, don't really care. I'm not, I'm not concerned about Kansas and Des Moines. No. Which is why I, you know, another game of the tournament. Here we go. Here we go again. St. Mary's 26 and seven. Overall West Coast Conference. Uh, second place, uh, to Gonzaga. They were 14 and two, uh, lost handedly to Gonzaga in the championship, but did beat them once earlier on. That's in the year. That's cute. I also think they took them to OT once, uh, if I remember correctly.

Stoy Hall:

That's San Diego, which is

Cole Ingle:

right. Um, but St. Mary's solid five seed, uh, got a lot of respect this year, uh, for their overall. Um, and then you have vcu, which somewhat biased. I watched VCU U go through the A 10. I did too. And they look good. Uh, they look and they look, they looked like they had each position for the, they looked like a successful Cinderella. They looked like what I've seen move through an n NCAA tournament because they have a point guard. Yep. They have that wing that's athletic and they have just enough around the rim and get a lot of offensive rebounds. And they're scrappy. Press you all all, and they're just in your shorts. All game in your shorts. And I like the, I'm gonna take that style of basketball. over a West coast style basketball. Absolutely. In the n ncaa tournament especially. Rounds 10 times outta 10 every time. Uh, unfortunately we're both on vcu sorry, Rams. Uh, so you'll

Stoy Hall:

probably lose that game. Yeah. But no, that's, that is one of my heaviest 12 fives. Yeah. Personally,

Cole Ingle:

love the 12, absolutely love the 12 seats in this shirt. Oh, they're

Stoy Hall:

so good. Good. Um,

Cole Ingle:

wish they were different. Yukon, Iona, uh, Iona, another ex, uh, much expressed upset. Oh yes. The thing is, is Ionas matchup with Yukon is not a good one. In my opinion. Yukon is long. They lead the nation in offensive rebounding. Um, they don't give up a ton of points overall. I mean, it's a pretty much a wash as far as points per game versus points allowed between these two Yukon rebounds, their misses. Like, it's like 50% of the time.

Stoy Hall:

It's, it's a stupid, it's absurd. It, it really is. Uh, but this is my 13 over four. Like the only one I could think of. Huh. And it's because of Iona. And I watched them, um, throughout their term. I'm

Cole Ingle:

gonna have to fight for Yukon here because, no, no, go ahead. No, I'm fine with it. I'm just saying future bracket

Stoy Hall:

of the 1 13 4. I had. This is the only one I really, really, really felt and saw because I watch a lot of Iona. That's, and, and that's, and that's the purpose for it. But I'm good with Yukon. I really don't have

Cole Ingle:

a problem with it at all. I, I think Yukon makes, um, a deeper run. So I, I have to go against that. They can, um, Arizona State, Nevada. Nevada, uh, Nevada. Nevada's, I in Iowa, Nevada's in Las Vegas. Make that make sense. Um, I, Arizona State's a, they're a gritty team. Yeah. For the Pac 12. They're super inconsistent, though. TCU is finally relatively healthy. Yeah. Um, I think that Arizona State advances over Nevada, but I think that TCU played in a tough conference, injured most of the year, and they're somewhat healthy. Finally. Um, I think TCU advances here. I agree. I agree. Uh, Gonzaga, grand Canyon. Oh, grand Canyon's. Sneaky, um, sneaky. They don't really play anybody, but they can shoot the damn rock. I mean, both t both these teams shoot at 38%. Um, Gonzaga just inside is going to dominate Grand Canyon. It was just this one that got me. Yep. So overall Gonzaga moves on. It was that

Stoy Hall:

one that got me. I was like, that's, that's absurd,

Cole Ingle:

right? Uh, just a tough matchup man. This matchup. Yeah. Northwestern Boise State. Um, I don't know how long you wanna stay on this game. I'm on Northwestern here. I

Stoy Hall:

don't have to stay very long, but I'm just, I want everyone to know it. It's coin.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. I mean, Boise State shoots it well from three, about 37%. Uh, Northwestern Streaky only 32, but they've got two guards that are really solid. Um, I

Stoy Hall:

just think big, and that's what I don't know enough about Boise to like defend against. Right. Which is why I've, I've

Cole Ingle:

picked Northwestern. I also just think that like Northwestern, like you're in the tournament. They don't get in the tournament very often. They're playing with a chip. They're not a, nor they're not like a Michigan State who might be overlooking, or a, a Wisconsin who might be overlooking, like they're a team going in. Like we're doing everything we can. They're to feel like an underdog going, going into this game. I have, I have no qualms there. And ucla. Yep. Yeah.

Stoy Hall:

Uh, and, and that's where we sit for now. All right. Right. Let's let, I mean, we, we will discuss, let's see where it says halftime text A and M's Up. Six. Okay. Oka. Corpus Christi. Corpus Christi up six. So this is where we sit everyone, if you want to. Yep. I can get it all in there. Uh, check it out. Right now as our joint bracket again, we have, we haven't set the bet against our head head cuz we still don't know where, I mean, we, our Brexit,

Cole Ingle:

we pick their game because it's gonna happen before our next broadcast. Oh shit.

Stoy Hall:

That's right. Um, but I have to really pee. Yeah.

Cole Ingle:

That makes two of

Stoy Hall:

us. Yeah. Okay. Quick break. Quick break. However, uh, we will set our bets after as well as second round. Let's we, the, the pressing part of like, let's get through this. Tell me about it because. Uh, which is, which is dope, right? To get Nike.

Cole Ingle:

Well, there's definitely between the men and the women, like there's a. Very few over overlap overlaps between like, like the somewhat different times, which is

Stoy Hall:

really, really, really good. Mm-hmm. but that's a lot of basketball. All right. Round two. Round two. Here we go. Uh, Purdue, Memphis. So man, we talked about, I really like, this is a very, very, very, very tough pick. Mm-hmm. for me. Mm-hmm. um, again watching Memphis and I'll watch for Purdue throughout too. Yeah. Um, and everyone talks about player of the year, Edie, outside of him.

Cole Ingle:

They're beautiful. I mean, ultimately it comes down to Memphis, the style of game that gets played. If Purdue is able to play a half court game,

Stoy Hall:

it's over. Mm-hmm. Memphis gets out and runs,

Cole Ingle:

which, which Memphis is only chance to win to speed the game up.

Stoy Hall:

Edie. Edie gets taken outta the game, he cannot keep up. Mm-hmm. and they'll learn that they'll have to go small ball and they're small ball against one's against their, I guess if you wanna call'em twos. I've like, I Eileen Memphis

Cole Ingle:

on that. I mean, Memphis is, is my lean here as well. It's just so, but again, um, I don't, the thing that I like, if I'm looking at it, uh, big picture is f a u has a good chance to be in Memphis in the first round. Um, and I say good chance, meaning that it's a coin flip game. It is coin flip. Uh, whereas Purdue is definitely getting there. And so then comfort, then, you know, if you think, do you think that F AAU has a good chance of meeting Purdue? Um, I don't know as much about that, but I think that Memphis has the athleticism to guard guards and, and be able to present them something that is difficult, uh, for them to win. I'm, I'm leaning Memphis in this one. I am, I am

Stoy Hall:

too. All right. Um, as much as that sucks for us to say. Yeah. Um, but I'm going to, and, and next round will put more into the play there. Yeah. Um, alright. As we go, duke, uh, duke, Tennessee,

Cole Ingle:

um, I have Duke all the way here. Uh, Tennessee's injured. Duke's been playing well. Uh, I just, this wasn't really, isn't much of a thing for me. Let's move on. Let's move on. Uh, Providence, Kansas State, um, this is one where I, I've kind of been split 50 50. Um, okay. The thing that I don't like about picking providence here is that they've been inconsistent this year and them upsetting Kentucky, who's also been extremely inconsistent. Um, to me that's a pick game. So to go to pick games in a row is tough. Again, the only lien is that an 11 seat, again, historically speaking, has made, um, a sweet 16 or deeper run for like, I wanna say like eight outta the last 10 seasons. And this is, and this is the only one that we have. I agree. But on paper it's Kansas State. Yeah. Um, agreed. So Kansas State would be, I think the consensus there. Marquette here. I don't have to talk to anything about that. Just, I didn't feel great about the Michigan State USC game. No. So

Stoy Hall:

I think, I love me some Marquette. Not gonna lie. Love me some Marquette. Kansas, Illinois, uh, Kansas. Uh, I just wanna see the stats for everybody, but

Cole Ingle:

I think Illinois can present some problems, but not too much. Uh, ultimately Kansas

Stoy Hall:

will blow it out late. Yeah. You can't be sea.

Cole Ingle:

Absolutely hate this game. You, you, because I love both of, of these things. I absolutely love both of these teams. Um, oh man. For, I think both of these teams, I think this is a terrible, I mean, this is just a terrible draw. I agree. Um, between the, so when you look at this draw, you've got St. Mary's, vcu, Yukon, Iona, separately of them. Like if you throw Iona or VCU over against Tennessee, I'm taking them and they can give Duke a game. I look at the rest of the bracket and I think these teams got absolutely screwed. Yep. Uh, in the seating. And it's very disheartening. Agreed. And also makes the bracket very difficult. Ultimately, Yukon is too much like VCU and has just faced tougher competition's that I, I think Yukon. Um,

Stoy Hall:

I, on the, the vc, uh, the vc, the reason a VCU would run is because they're facing teams that aren't used to it. Mm-hmm. and there's, there's two complimentary, um, there. Yeah. So that's where I'm at with it. Yeah. Oh, man. Um, I'm big on Gonzaga. Yeah. I think their shooting's great. I think their, their ex, their seniority, uh,

Cole Ingle:

if a Lampkin was playing for tcu, which for those who don't know is their big guy, um, I think he could make a little bit more difference in the lane against, uh, Timmy. Uh, but I think overall Gonzaga is just going to be able to overwhelm tcu, uh, for 40 minutes. Agree. Uh, and win that game. Uh, Northwestern UCLA really like UCLA and their seniority in this tournament, uh, experience. Uh, they have guys who've been there and been successful in this tournament. It's gonna boardwalk. I have them going. Love. Let's again, UCLA Gonzaga is a complete sha that those two teams have to play each other, uh, that early. Um, and Kansas and Yukon, I think four of the top 10 teams in the country are in one bracket. And I think it's bullshit. Yep. Uh,

Stoy Hall:

just to reiterate, I, I literally will agree with you and usually when we agree the opposite happens, right. So buckle up folks. Um, well, we're gonna end with the number one seed given'em their props at the end. Uh, so Houston.

Cole Ingle:

Um, if Houston's healthy, I think they definitely win. And I think it's a 50 50 game. Why? If they're not this suck, this

Stoy Hall:

sucks healthy, this sucks so bad

Cole Ingle:

about it because Iowa's so streaky that if they shoot well in game one, they're staying in the same place they staying, then they can shoot well in game two. It's Iowa's best chance to advance. It's the best one seed that Iowa matches up with. And if so, I love the matchup, right? If I'm a Hawkeye fan, correct. For as crappy as I played at the end of the year, I have a chance to make a run unexpectedly because of my draws. Yes, absolutely. I'm playing a team that is not playing well and does not play my style and run one and I'm playing the worst of the four one seeds if they're not healthy and round two. And he's

Stoy Hall:

pro, I mean, he's not gonna be a hundred percent, let's be real. No, but I mean come back

Cole Ingle:

from, if he doesn't play in round one and then is there ultimately I think I take Houston. I do too. Um, but

Stoy Hall:

if he's not playing, yeah, it's game change. But we can't, he can't make your brackets off

Cole Ingle:

restaurant, so obviously

Stoy Hall:

take Houston. Yeah, absolutely. Uh, I, one of my brackets, I for sure had Drake, Iowa. Yeah. I just wanted

Cole Ingle:

everyone to know that. No doubt. As did I, uh, Drake and Indiana I like Drake and so do you. Oh lord. This one,

Stoy Hall:

and, and I really like this matchup. Like I don't, a lot of people won't, won't talk about it, but. For just this one matches up very, very well. I don't

Cole Ingle:

like when teams that I like also the stats speak for it. Yeah, because it feels like a double jinx. It does. It does. It does. Absolutely. I'm on Drake. Um, in this round I probably like Drake versus Indiana or Ken State better than I like him against Miami. Okay. Um, no, just one of those things. I think either Drake or Miami gets to this point. Yeah.

Stoy Hall:

And I will, I will say if if it's Iowa Drake, yeah, let's go. Let's go. I'm not that one would be a very interesting one as well. So I don't know why we got rid of the big four. Seems really stupid when all three are on the same side of the bracket.

Cole Ingle:

Iowa State, Xavier,

Stoy Hall:

this one's tough. I like Xavier. I, I just like them as a team. Yeah,

Cole Ingle:

but I mean, do you like them without fe pine? No, I don't. Um, and Iowa State's and Iowa figured out and figured themselves out. I mean, I've got Iowa State here all the way.

Stoy Hall:

I do too. Uh, but I've, I've just still let everyone know I like Xavier. I'm just

Cole Ingle:

saying if Xavier was healthy, they're their Baylor on the other side to me on this side. They run it and they're, you know, like, I loved it, the three seeds until he was hurt. They're not the same team without it. No,

Stoy Hall:

they're not. It's unfortunately, it's really sadly not close. Yeah. Um, this one's gonna come down to again, another Iowa situation. Is Penn State St. Streaking hot? Are they shooting from three or Not For me personally. Yeah.

Cole Ingle:

But I mean, also. They match up well with Texas. They do. And I don't know what's the, what's the shooting? I mean, the scoring rate is similar. Penn State doesn't score it quite the rate Texas does, but as far as shooting,

Stoy Hall:

I mean obviously threes Penn State

Cole Ingle:

is significantly better and I just feel like they know what they know. Like Penn State right now knows their identity. Granted Texas just ran through the Big 12 tournament, ran through it, ran through it, um, made Kansas look like little, and they have some athletes that Penn State does not have. Let me be very clear, I have a very difficult time picking against Texas, but if anybody is going to beat them, it's Iowa State or Penn or Penn State. I, I I I mean, I think Texas is who we're moving on here. Yes. Let me be very clear though, that if this ended up being a Penn State 11 seed matchup, it would not be that surprising. No. No. And I'm not even surprised that's how bad this, like I say bad, that's how competitive this bracket

Stoy Hall:

is. Right. And I'm not, I wouldn't be surprised that they beat'em. Mm-hmm. But I, I just, I cannot go against Texas the way they playing. They've been play well through Kansas. Don't disagree. This situation's a little different conversation. That's No, that's a, that's a different week. Mm-hmm. Um, alright now to this side of the bracket, which, There's a bracket I have that doesn't have one, one seed going the final four. No, I

Cole Ingle:

have a lot of, I have a lot of two seeds. I like a lot of the two seeds there,

Stoy Hall:

there, there is just, there's just some seeds that aren't one seeds that I think could happen. I still don't trust Bama. I really don't. Yeah, I

Cole Ingle:

mean I really don't, honestly, my thing with Bama has nothing to do with basketball.

Stoy Hall:

It's zero to do with basketball. I thought the

Cole Ingle:

same thing man. So my thing with Bama is they can win the first game and they can win the second game possibly. Yep. Um, and if they do, that's fine after that. Um, the thing is, is there's no history. They're not basketball. There's one, there's no history. But two, like it or not, uh, the Brandon Miller Miller situation is gonna come back into the spotlight once you get to the Sweet 16 Uhhuh And when this came into the spotlight to begin with, Alabama struggled. They got over the hump, um, and through the scc. And what, what was that again? What was the situation? Um, well there was a man who brought a gun to another man who shot a person.

Stoy Hall:

Well, and, and that man allegedly, and by allegedly,

Cole Ingle:

I mean, I'm not even gonna get into this cuz you just read the text messages. He knew exactly what he was doing. Just saying. Um, but the thing is, is like they're gonna have to answer questions in the national media, and that's not comfortable for anyone, let alone an 18 year old kid trying to win a national championship. Oh. Um, the thing that I don't like about this for. is that West Virginia is exactly the type of team that Alabama wants. Nothing to do with do with

Stoy Hall:

not a chance. Um, not a

Cole Ingle:

good matchup. There's not a ton of people probably saw it. Um, Oklahoma, who for those scoring at home was the worst team, uh, in the Big 12, ran Alabama out of their own building by 30 points when they played earlier this year, because they out physicaled, outran out, shot out, hustled out everything, Alabama on that Saturday. Can

Stoy Hall:

you say that Alabama is the most pro type team? Absolutely. And what usually happens in the pros,

Cole Ingle:

if you don't make shots, you don't win and defense

Stoy Hall:

and you can get

Cole Ingle:

bullied, right? I mean, the thing is, is like you can get bullied. Bama blocks a lot of shots, BA does a lot of athletic things, so they offensive rebound. Well, right. They shoot the three, well, they, they shoot the three a lot. Sometimes they shoot it. Well, Um, thank you. They run the floor. They, I mean they have a lot of possessions. Oops. They're very, yeah, right. They are a very fancy onee who wins a lot of games and is, has the best player in the country. They have the best player in the country. But guess what happens when you get in their face fit and West Virginia? Win or lose. We'll get in. they're gonna be in your shorts at the end of the game. And I'm talking literally you're walking through the, the handshake line. If you get a chance to walk through the handshake line, they're still in one leg. Just that is not a team I, that Alabama wants to see. Okay. Alabama is rooting wholeheartedly for Maryland and it's only because Maryland won't get in them as much Maryland will, but they can't to the level of West Virginia. No. They don't have the depth. Um, so, and the other thing comes down to how is this game Refered, if they allow West Virginia to physical Alabama, that is the one thing that Miller is not comfortable with. Oklahoma made him so uncomfortable, they were never in that basketball game. West Virginia has that potential. I cannot pick a West Virginia team who is quite possibly the freakiest team from half to half in the history of college basketball. Not to mention the fact that they can get in foul trouble. Yeah. But Alabama is not a guarantee to admit to advance in this game. They're not. This is a 60 40 at very best Alabama game. Um, probably more. 55. 45. Yep. Um, but I do, I do think Alabama finds a way to get to the Sweet 16. I just, where their next opponent is amazingly.

Stoy Hall:

That's, in my opinion, this is their hard game.

Cole Ingle:

I mean, even if they face Virginia who's very similar, I just don't think that they, they don't just, they just don't have the chip that West Virginia does on the shoulder. From a defensive perspective. No. And,

Stoy Hall:

and from a, from a, this standpoint, Charleston, Virginia. Yeah.

Cole Ingle:

Who'd you, I mean, who do you have in this game? I

Stoy Hall:

do have Virginia. Um, in the re and this was more of a hedge thing by the way. Yeah. Is that I think Virginia and, uh, San Diego State, I had like Virginia better. And so if that so happened to happen in a 12 five matchup, I'm writing Virginia to go next anyway.

Cole Ingle:

Or I think whoever wins the 12 five game beats Virginia. Okay.

Stoy Hall:

Well that's a tough one for us then. Yeah. Well, let's, then let's go, let's look at some stats. Um, again, a lot of this year, by the way, for the first year ever, I'm going off of, we're gonna roll with stats here. I'm going two and Oh, I'm going defense, and I'm

Cole Ingle:

going three threes and Virginia's been playing better, um, down the stretch. Mm-hmm. uh, than they, you know, they've kind of found exactly what, you know, where they wanna play. They're scoring a little bit better than they, they normally do. So, um, yeah. We, we can roll with Virginia here. Okay. All

Stoy Hall:

right. All right. Here we go. Baylor c Creighton, um, I mean, there's a lot of people calling c Creighton going to far ways.

Cole Ingle:

I'm, I'm just saying I like that Baylor's finally healthy. Do they have it in them? Do they have it in'em? I don't think so. I think Baylor's healthy enough and deep enough. Um,

Stoy Hall:

I, I agree. I think the matchup situation for c Creighton that yeah, their, their bracket draw not very good for, for how they play. Uh, and then we get to the final, final matchup, Utah State, Arizona, actually, surprisingly more difficult.

Cole Ingle:

If you look at this game, you would think that these two are flipped. Oh, I know. Because if you go through straight of the schedule points aloud Yeah. Everything like that, you would think, oh, Arizona's the, the higher of the two, they're not, uh, they do score more points. They give up slightly more points. So the differentials are, are minimal nine to 10 points type of thing. Um, Utah State, slightly outshoots, um, Arizona overall, uh, Arizona obviously more athletic, um, better around the rim and, and more just, just a, a deeper team overall. But if Utah State gets hot, this is a pick game. Um, even, even in a 10, two matchup is, is a pick game. The only reason I lean Arizona is because, I don't know that Utah state will be here. And I think Arizona definitely beats Missouri. Yes. And so is where I went with this one as well. Yeah. Uh, we'll hedge and, and go Arizona. That's exactly what

Stoy Hall:

was said. Um,

Cole Ingle:

so there we go. Very chalky in, in that side.

Stoy Hall:

There we are. Just give everyone a final looksie of that, but hey, it, it, it does not start. It has already started. Yeah. The madness is live as we speak. We got, uh, Texas Corpus Christi up six right now with 15 minutes left, um, against southeast Missouri. Uh, love this time of the year. Yeah. Not a basketball guy. Right? Um, mainly because I was only brought up to play jv and by play I mean practice against JV and varsity to, to be physical. Um, don't have the height, but I do enjoy some basketball. I do enjoy this time of the year. The madness of it all, uh, gets everyone

Cole Ingle:

excited. Yeah. Can't wait for the buzzer beaters. Uh, we know there'll be a couple. Uh, there's gonna be a few. Um,

Stoy Hall:

there'll be some offsets. There's gonna be some type of run as

Cole Ingle:

well as we finish brackets here, uh, this week obviously due tomorrow evening, um, type of thing. The heartburn is gonna be high.

Stoy Hall:

It's gonna be high. So with that being said though, what's our head-to-head bracket? What is the bet? What is the wager on our head-to-head that we have no idea? I mean, we've talked through it where we.

Cole Ingle:

I mean, I think we, I think it's weekly. I think it's just weekly. You want to Weekly? Yeah. I mean, I, I think that just makes sense. As we, as we advance shop per week here, we advance within the, the bracket. Great.

Stoy Hall:

So this is, yeah, this is week one. Mm-hmm. week two gets us salsa all over to the final four. Right, right. And then we got the championship. Mm-hmm. So do we do 1, 2, 3?

Cole Ingle:

I mean, I think as, as the, I think just if we're gonna continue golf, I think we just do one a week for the, just

Stoy Hall:

one a week. Okay. You gotta double it for the, for the final four championship

Cole Ingle:

though. I mean, I think that we can look at, as we get closer at, if we have higher seeds advanced or anything like that, like we can getting into little sides, a little

Stoy Hall:

bit more, little sides, some side bets, so. Alright. Uh, uh, actually shot a weekend. We have no idea each other's bracket. As we sit now, we have a lot of brackets, so we kind of need to submit that. By the way, um, you, I understand. Did you fill that

Cole Ingle:

one out? You have, where did we send that one? I,

Stoy Hall:

I sent one on cbs. That's just for the Guten squad. Did you fill that one out? I filled that one out. All right, we'll just use that one. That's the one I figured we would use. Oh good. I'll have access to it. We'll bring it up and uh, we will see you next week as we speak. Watch a lot of basketball. Yeah. This is

Cole Ingle:

the time of the year. Enjoy. Let's, right. The madness has begun. The madness

Stoy Hall:

has begun.

Cole Ingle:

Well then it's.

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