NoBS GoonSquad Sports Show

73 - SuperBowl Review...TIGER IS BACK (Again!)

February 15, 2023 NO BS Podcast Season 2 Episode 73
73 - SuperBowl Review...TIGER IS BACK (Again!)
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NoBS GoonSquad Sports Show
73 - SuperBowl Review...TIGER IS BACK (Again!)
Feb 15, 2023 Season 2 Episode 73
NO BS Podcast

In this episode, we begin by discussing their experience of doing the financial books for their business, which took over two and a half hours. Then move on to discuss the Phoenix Open and the Super Bowl. 

We offer their initial reactions to the Super Bowl and the controversial call that determined the game's outcome. Finally, we discuss upcoming golf events, TIGER IS BACK and college basketball, as well as the NFL's off-season news and moving parts.

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In this episode, we begin by discussing their experience of doing the financial books for their business, which took over two and a half hours. Then move on to discuss the Phoenix Open and the Super Bowl. 

We offer their initial reactions to the Super Bowl and the controversial call that determined the game's outcome. Finally, we discuss upcoming golf events, TIGER IS BACK and college basketball, as well as the NFL's off-season news and moving parts.

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We believe everyone deserves the opportunity to build, protect and enjoy their wealth.

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Start for FREE

Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.

Check out our $$$ pod, @No BS Wealth, all about MONEY!

Also, come interact with the squad directly!
Twitter: @stoy_hall @cingle16


Stoy Hall:

All right, ladies and jets, I have just spent the last two and a half hours doing books. Yep. Not reading, not signing them, but doing the transactions for our financial books. I'm not an accountant, but I had to help cuz. Well, you know,

Cole Ingle:

did you stay at a holiday in Express last night? Apparently. Ah, alright.

Stoy Hall:

Um, bad choice. Who? So that's fun. Um, for all those that have to do that as business owners, I, you know, obviously I do a lot of those, but the last two and a half hours I have been doing those. So I, I Anywho, huh uh, you've got Stoy Hall here. I was a linebacker at Drake University. And then we've got Cole Engle,

Cole Ingle:

uh, former, uh, Drake University quarterback Softy.

Stoy Hall:

Yeah. Yeah, that's what, that's what you wear. Hey,

Cole Ingle:

but we're the and my day. That's true. Actually. We took the hard hits. You did that. And nobody cares about us cuz we were never on tv, so we never got any flags.

Stoy Hall:

You also, there was no RPOs or any of that stuff too. Right? Right. But let's, there was less options, but hey, here we are. We're the

Cole Ingle:

Goon Squad. Mine was just a PO by the way.

Stoy Hall:

Yeah, just the po Yeah. I had one option. Right. I guess you could fall. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways. All right. So pos no play option in sac. That was your only two, two options anyways. Uh, so here we are. Um, if you all were not aware, there was an event this, this weekend, um, that, uh, kind of came down to the wire. There was a lot involved. Yeah. Um, it was kind of exciting and thrilling, but uh, Scheffler pulled it off, so Right.

Cole Ingle:

suckers. I mean, honestly though, like if you were watching, um, the golf beforehand, uh, you got the same feeling in the golf tournament that you did. Yeah. Good. Set up, couple of, uh, close calls and then we just, you didn't have it at the end like you thought you might get in Yeah, absolutely. For the 18th, so you're not wrong. Uh,

Stoy Hall:

well played sir. Well played. So we'll recap, obviously. Um, the Phoenix Open, we'll recap that, uh, bowl of Super. Um, and then we'll get into this week, which is no more football, sadly. Oh, so what happened? Well, I mean,

Cole Ingle:

xfl Yeah.

Stoy Hall:

We don't cover that on a weekly basis. Okay. Um, highlights, though we might. But what happens after the Super Bowl for us? Oh, well, we get into highlight of golf, right? Golf takes center stage. Um, we'll do a little bit of college basketball. But what's huge in the off-season for us on the NFL side is all the news, all the moving parts. Um, that's where we'll get the highlights of, um, and you'll hear a lot more from us from a news perspective there, but golf is, golf is king. Yeah. And the king of golf is making his way back this week. He is indeed. And if you don't know who it is, you'll find out later. So let's, uh, let's get into, um, if you don't know

Cole Ingle:

who it is, you're, you're probably not go home

Stoy Hall:

like you're Alex, you're probably not listening to us. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. So let's, let's start with the Super Bowl, just so we can go golf, golf, the rest of the, the, the afternoon. Um, first initial gut reaction when that, you know, at the end, like just gimme everything. Your first initial gut. Um,

Cole Ingle:

Wow. It's tough. I had very gutty, I had two reactions. Um, I had, we have one gut, so I, uh, I'm watching with my wife, uh, at this point. Ah, that's right. Who is a huge Chiefs fan, right? That's fair. Uh, so the initial reaction is hold, and then the reaction is you still want the Eagles to have a chance to go down the field. Um, so it's, it, it's two reactions. It's a, the play itself doesn't look big enough to make the, the play itself doesn't look big enough to make the impact that it made. Unfortunately. You know, you see a guy grab a jersey when the guy's trying to run the other way and he pulls it off of his back, like if they see it, they're probably gonna throw the flag there. Now, it wasn't called, uh, a couple times earlier in the game, uh, on either side. uh, they didn't see it. They didn't throw it. I don't, I mean, I don't know. They let'em play mostly the game. I think there were nine total penalties, um, which was

Stoy Hall:

overall, that was well done by the way. Yeah.

Cole Ingle:

Um, I guess give, give your initial reaction. I think, I think yours was stronger than mine. If I'm, if I'm being honest. Just based on our text back and forth and stuff like that as well. Yeah.

Stoy Hall:

Uh, absolutely. It was, it was a hundred percent a hold. I don't, I don't know why we're, we're all up in arms. Um, it was a hold. It is what it is. Don't do that. Um, now the defender himself even said the same thing. Yeah. Right. Now, the, and this is what we texted about, is I don't think the penalty was necessarily thrown because of the tug. Or the actual jersey pole, it was because his momentum was drastically reduced. Mm-hmm. if, if it would've just been full speed, I don't want, I think he was open for a touchdown, so let's, let's start there too. Mm-hmm. uh, it's just he impeded him so much in that route in terms of a, uh, timing and, and, um, speed reduction of that pole. Mm-hmm. that's what needed to be called, in my opinion.

Cole Ingle:

Right. Which it happened twice. Yeah. I mean, you had the hold and then you had the, the hip ground thing. Right. That ch they kept him from going upfield. So like you have two different times when you're, I to your point, impeding momentum. Yeah. Uh,

Stoy Hall:

on route. I think the second one, I think the first one would've been fine. I think he would've let it go. But you do it again,

Cole Ingle:

like, I think if only one of the two items happens, maybe you don't need the flag. We're good. I think we're

Stoy Hall:

good. But I also think if one of, only one of'em two happens, it's a. No, I'm, he's beat street. Yeah, he did it cuz he's beat. Oh yeah. I,

Cole Ingle:

that's why. And it was one of the few plays, the Eagles actually got pressure on Mahomes. Correct? Um, yeah,

Stoy Hall:

there's, I but that's why like the, he knew pressure was coming. Yeah. Um, cuz they, they blitz, he has to play up. He got beat. He, he's going to hold because a touchdown beats him. Mm-hmm. like it's, it's for sure over right. With a touchdown. Yeah. I, and so as a defender, I mean, but

Cole Ingle:

ultimately it's not.

Stoy Hall:

No. I mean, you have more time. Yeah. I mean,

Cole Ingle:

I mean all those things. Well, I mean, ultimately when you look at it, they wanted to let, they've tried to let him score in the next play. That's also true.

Stoy Hall:

Um,

Cole Ingle:

fair. So I, you know, I mean it's, it's one of those things that we talk about and this is something we might as well just jump into now. Uh, since we're at that point in the game. You give them a first down, you're out of timeouts. Um, now it's a run the clock down. We don't care if we only get three points from an offensive perspective. and that conversation has always talked about of McKinnon, almost scored, ends up sliding. You want to know what was going through his mind at like, at what point did he know he was sliding down at the one yard line? Did he know the whole time or did he finally realize, oh, you know, did they talk about it in the huddle? I've gotta assume yes. But then when we look back to the holding play on the Eagles, it's never really talked about it from a defensive mindset until after. It's a foregone conclusion that you need to let them score. It's, you know, if he lets them score on the play before or you have more time. Right. And not, not even lets him score, but does not commit the penalty. Right. Um, you know, once he's beat and they score a touchdown, you're in the same position that you were on the very next play. Yeah. And I don't think that really ever gets talked about or looked at because at that point it was smart to try to let them score. And you were hoping that the chiefs would score.

Stoy Hall:

I mean, there was what? Minute, minute, 20. Yeah. There

Cole Ingle:

was time. There were plenty of time. Plenty of time if they let him score or if they score. Um, you know, on the third downplay right, they gave them a first down. Um, but ultimately the chiefs were going to get points there no matter what. It was just gonna be a matter of, of timing. And the disappointment comes in how well both quarterbacks played. Yeah. And it was an offensive juggernaut pretty much no sacks allowed in the game, as I, I hit on zero. Who got sacked? Uh,

Stoy Hall:

Hertz got sacked twice. Well, I, he ran

Cole Ingle:

out, he ran outta bounds with Right, but I don't think they were like no po like no. Oh yeah, no. On like in the

Stoy Hall:

pocket. They were statistics, sex, but not like

Cole Ingle:

actual sex. They were, I think they were actually recorded as negative. Oh, they were? Oh, well, good. Uh, but either way, like right as far as getting someone down in the pocket and. Um, you know, so I, I, I just think that that that goes a long ways and obviously that was a bigger deal for the Chiefs, in my opinion, than it was for the Eagles, but a big deal for both teams. Yeah. No matter what. Uh, so the fact that you didn't get to go, you know, see her. Yes. Yeah. Um, you know, did he have another drive? Did he have another absolute pinpoint dart of a throw that he could make? He made three or four throughout the game. Probably did. Um, yeah. You know, um, you know, probably at least one, it seemed like all game long. Our, our texts back and forth, um, were about how the chiefs were in defensive position. Really. Like all game, on every play that mattered. They were in the right position and they made the play on the fumble. Yeah. Um, and a couple other plays late. it seemed and felt like even right up until the end that the Eagles kept finding a way when it mattered the most to make the plays and then they didn't get a chance to at the end. So that's where the disappointment lies from that perspective.

Stoy Hall:

From that from a game perspective. Absolutely. Like I knew it had to be called, which sucks. And deflate the ending of the game. Cuz you want a cool finish, especially in a game like that. That was a, that was a really good game. Mm-hmm. like it was good. Top to bottom. Yep. Um, you know, let's be real about it, but everyone wants to talk about that. They, you know, the eagles got screwed at the end. I never thought about your point of view of if he would've just not held him and let him score, they would've had way more time. Mm-hmm. and I even thought about that so clearly it was not in the defensive huddle on that play, but I mean, it wouldn't be

Cole Ingle:

because you're crying.

Stoy Hall:

It's too early. Score zero and zero points. They were 20, the 20 then.

Cole Ingle:

Well ultimately if they get yards out, like no, I mean they would've been on the like 18, just inside the 20, but Yeah. But here already admits a 43 yarder. So, and also if you get the stop. they kick the field goal and you get the ball back with the same amount of time. The same time. So you, you're not even having conver the conversation. Correct. But it's just like, if everyone wants to look at hindsight, well then I'll look all the way back to the plate where you Right, that's fair. The

Stoy Hall:

hold. So that's fair now, but, you know, towards, you know, just to have that end that way. But let's, let's be honest here. Eagles fans, your defense didn't stop the chiefs once in the second half. No. You want, you want problems, that's your problem.

Cole Ingle:

And also, the only time they did stop them, or the only time that the ch the Eagles fans are complaining about was on the holding call, they only scored three points on that possession. The rest of them you gave upset.

Stoy Hall:

Just, just, just saying there was there

Cole Ingle:

and you gave us 21 more points. And a couple of those touchdowns weren't, I could've thrown to you or you could've thrown to me lefty. They got

Stoy Hall:

outcoached. And I cannot wait for us to talk about that in the second place. But like spanked Outcoached, that was a vet coach saying, no, no, we're good. And guess what? I know exactly what you're doing on defense. I, sorry about it.

Cole Ingle:

Sorry about it. I know so much about what you're doing on defense. I'm gonna call it a damn corn dog. Yeah. Literally calling it a, we're gonna watch the play corn dog here in a little bit, man. And, and to

Stoy Hall:

say like, they found that defense from week five Yeah. When they played the Jacksonville, Jaguar. Yeah. That's how in depth. And I was listening to, I don't know what podcast I was listening to today, but how in depth in the NFL you can go from a study and research standpoint on a team. Yeah. They were running this defense and they went back to week

Cole Ingle:

five Yeah. To see how they would play certain, not only did they

Stoy Hall:

run it formations once, they ran it twice. And we will get to that on a defensive topic. I hope we have, I think, I don't know if we have film on that,

Cole Ingle:

but Yeah, I've got the, I put the dual images on it. I drive good because they, uh, it was both the Tony and the bad, more touchdowns just bad.

Stoy Hall:

Uh, but overall, I, I was, I enjoyed I biggest

Cole Ingle:

disappointment. I mean, mine's easy.

Stoy Hall:

Um, yeah, bucker missing that field goal because I put a bet on it. But anyway. That's fair. Um, biggest disappointment? Um, honestly, it was, um, the eight deep for the Eagles for me. I said that was a huge proponent and yeah. That you, and, and I'm not taking away from the chief's offensive line. They balled out mm-hmm. But when you're, when you're eight deep and you have those players, and they did nothing, they couldn't get to Mahomes when he was relatively healthy and then they couldn't get to him when he was gimping. Mm-hmm. That's, that's poor,

Cole Ingle:

that's fair. Uh, biggest disappointment, field conditions. Oh, geez. Um, we saw at some point stacks of shoes on one of the sidelines. Uh, and we literally saw on, I would say 75% of plays, either an offensive or defensive player slipping or not being able to accelerate how they normally would. Uh, To make a play, whether it be, I think it really killed Philly's pass rush. Yeah. I mean I think it killed Kansas cities as well, but I think the bigger impact that was why is Yeah, every time they got to turn a corner, they were, they were on skis, uh, you know, and they might as well just, I mean, three or four different times, they just fell down, coming around the corner first, starting on the very first play of the game, you know, and you can make those adjustments, but on top of the field itself being slick or the turf not being, you know, this is 11 month grass and there was all of these things and then, I mean, it was a huge letdown because you were waiting every play for someone to slip or not be able to get to somebody or it change whatever may be. And it change that. And then they paint where they painted on the field, specifically the logo around midfield, so slick. Uh, they were on skates there as well. And that was just like running backs, trying to take a handoff and run up the field, like just falling down. Yeah. And so, that's a good point. The NFL like, That's something you can control and just, you don't ever want field conditions to make a difference in the game. Now obviously both teams are playing on it. Mm-hmm. so it's an even playing field, if you will. But, um, you know, no, you're right. It was still high scoring though. So did it, you know, did it slow the defenses down?

Stoy Hall:

I don't know. Uh, it, it, it slowed down the past rush. Right. There should have been more sacks. Actual sack. Right. There's no way around it. But, uh,

Cole Ingle:

yeah, that was

Stoy Hall:

my, you're right. What, how, first of all, when was the last time that that field was even played on?

Cole Ingle:

No, so they grew, so they just grew, that's 11. That gr grass has been growing. 11 months was especially designed by somebody at Oklahoma State. Oh. And so I was following the whole turf. Oh, you did,

Stoy Hall:

you were, you went

Cole Ingle:

down into every day. Yeah, I went down the wormhole as far as like Oh wow. And so like, and then the whole game, there was a lot of tweeting going on about it and stuff like that. Cuz at the beginning of the game there was a lot of pride and then it was so-and-so's grass and had, and then as the game went on, there was a lot of hate and it was awful. Rightfully so. It was terrible. Um, because it wasn't, it was a combination of the grass, the turf, and the paint all in some bad combination. Yeah. So to blame it all on one exec thing, probably not. But field conditions in general definitely impacted the game. Again, I don't, obviously both offenses benefited cuz they scored 73 points come on. But, uh, the one thing that we did talk about was the referees. Yeah. And I did see, I think even Dan Patrick said that the Super Bowl would re be remembered because the referees, and I just didn't agree with that take. Um, I know the, the big play at the end that we talked about, it led to disappointment in not being able to see a more entertaining finish. But I thought the referees stayed outta the game for the most part and they had a lot of tough review calls. Um, I thought the fumble that didn't count for the chiefs went the wrong way. And so like, I didn't feel as bad as far as, you know, these things equal themselves out during most games or whatever it may be. Because I thought the chiefs got seven points taken off the board. And you can argue that the Eagles got the opportunity, the score points taken off the board. But in my opinion, the chiefs got seven points taken off the board. Yeah. Quite literally. That's, I don't, that's a catch and a fumble and a touchdown for the

Stoy Hall:

chiefs. So the, what it came down to was time, right? He have,

Cole Ingle:

but he caught it time. He wasn't babbling.

Stoy Hall:

He, he caught it and he turned up field and he turned completely

Cole Ingle:

and then got, knew the hit smoked and fumbled the shit outta

Stoy Hall:

that ball. Right. That's a fumble. Like it's, that is a fumble in a time. Now Michelle's like, how is that not a fumble? I said, by rule they're gonna gonna say it's incomplete because of time. Or he didn't take the football

Cole Ingle:

move, football move or whatever. I mean, I don't know if

Stoy Hall:

that's in the rules. Hell does that mean he caught it? I'm like, Hey, I get it. Mm-hmm. No, you're, I, I agree, but I hardly agree with, with the reps. I don't think they were a problem at all. Yeah. Thought they, I thought they played a called a very well game. Now, the only thing I didn't like was the fact that the chiefs had a waste of, of review. Of review. I still think that needs dealt with, but you know, it, it, it figured itself out clearly. They didn't need

Cole Ingle:

the timeout at all. I mean, you had the, the Goddard Review went to Eagle's Way and that was a 50 50 play. Yeah. Um, so 50 50. And so the people coming at the refs as they're wrong, as being chiefs, homers didn't watch quarters of football. They're wrong. So, um, they're, they're, that was my take. And that's why I didn't feel like the Eagles got robbed, just cuz I thought. chances where the chiefs could have benefited from the refereeing Yeah. And didn't, yeah. Um, yeah. A couple of other times in the game. But overall, I thought, uh, the review process while, while it was long, that they reviewed the, the right plays, um, and did everything they could to, to get the calls right at those moments. Yeah. So, yeah, he, uh, that was as mad as I've been at the refs all year. I wasn't mad at the refs at the end of that game, uh, without a dog in the fight.

Stoy Hall:

Really. Absolutely. And, and the other concern, you know, was injury for Mahomes. Mm-hmm. And it happened actually. Yeah. But clearly not hard enough.

Cole Ingle:

Um, but the needles at halftime overcame it. Sure. Did

Stoy Hall:

I, first of all, I don't know. And it,

Cole Ingle:

we ought to be a needle in that locker room. We said it last

Stoy Hall:

week. Say it again. I said it when he texted you. The reason he got hurt is because he felt mentally a hundred percent ankle said, ah, yeah.

Cole Ingle:

and And he didn't even get twisted up. It's a good thing. No,

Stoy Hall:

it's a good thing cuz it would've been wrecked. But like he was scrambling too much cuz he feels good. Mm-hmm. ankle was ready, but

Cole Ingle:

he looked good. He did right up until it got touched. Well, I mean, all the things that, that cause ankles issues when you slow down, when you get tackled. Yep. And when you had to cut. Yeah. Besides that he's good.

Stoy Hall:

His like, that scrambled, that scramble he had, which I was like, um, I was texting the, our group and I was just like, the speed at which he got with that bum ankle Right. Was awesome. He was able to go straight. Yeah. Which as a defense, the only thing you needed him to do was do this. Yeah. You did not

Cole Ingle:

allow that make as soon as one time you could make him have to go east or west. It was over. You got him. He was either just gonna fall down. Or hurt himself. Yes. And the one time you didn't, he was looking to get down like the whole time and then he's like, shit, they're still not here to get to tackle. It's gonna run. All right. I'll keep going. Keep going. Damnit, Um, but yeah, I mean overall, uh, first half belonged to the Eagles and they looked really good. Mm-hmm. the Chiefs just didn't have the ball. Uh, they obviously that tired the defense out. It actually almost benefited the Eagles a little bit, in my opinion, that the Chiefs had the defensive fumble recovery for touchdown. Yeah. Uh, kind of a weird play with Hertz there, where he just, I mean, ultimately just kind of dropped the ball. Just dropped the ball. Um, which sucks because other than that, that guy was unbelievable. Mm-hmm. uh, gained a lot of my respect in that game, but, uh, that made the time of possession and the time that the chief's defense had to spend on the field. Yeah. So much longer. Yeah. And so much longer for the chief's offense to have to sit on the field. that even though I felt like Andy Reid had a really good idea, which we saw in the second half of what he wanted to do and how he wanted to attack, they didn't, they just didn't have enough plays in order to make that come to life. And in the second half, they got that opportunity and, and you saw that they clearly had a game plan that was ready to go, just like you saw on the first drive of the game. So, uh, didn't surprise me. I didn't feel like the Chiefs were ever outta that game.

Stoy Hall:

No. The Eagles got to me, they were outcoached, top to bottom. Mm-hmm. to start, even though they got up big, even though the chief, the Chiefs just weren't making plays. And we hit, well hit upon that more. The chiefs weren't just ma they just weren't making plays. They were there. Mm-hmm. the plays were there. Mm-hmm. they just didn't make'em. I felt the Eagles game plan, just one never changed. But I don't think it was as dynamic. It wasn't No, you weren't seeing that. They were just,

Cole Ingle:

they would were depending on great plays. Correct. In order to, I mean, to put themselves in the position where Hertz was literally

Stoy Hall:

chucking it up.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. I mean, literally perfectly chucking it up. That's fine. They're chucking it up nonetheless. He just threw it up. Yeah. And he was effective running the ball. And that's where I think Yes. And I mean, you and I talked about who not giving him, he had eight design runs in the first half and one in the second half, which is,

Stoy Hall:

that's a mind

Cole Ingle:

boggling to me. They cannot stop him running the football

Stoy Hall:

and they just didn't keep doing it. Yeah. I, I would've done it just to slow down the cheese offense. Like Right. Give me some time of possession.

Cole Ingle:

But they, I mean, I think we, we talked about that though. They were, they were really running down the play clock in the third quarter. They really were. Uh, you texted and were like, you gotta get the ball snapped. And it's like, it's one thing to run it down to five seconds, run clock, but they were rushing and taking penalties or at least one penalty and one time out. Um, because the play clock. Yeah. And so at that point, the only excuse for that is you're just, you are, there's no urgency and you're trying to run it down. to not give him Mahomes, the ball back. And ultimately you were screwing the timing of your offense up by doing that because there was no flow. Yeah. To your offense in the second half, you guys stay aggressive after

Stoy Hall:

you built a big league. You guys stay aggressive. There's no, it, it's, it's been proven in specifically in Super Bowls that you go soft, bad things happen. Right. And yeah. I

Cole Ingle:

didn't even feel like, I never felt like they went, they got off I conservative. I felt like they got

Stoy Hall:

slow. They got slow, but those plays weren't good either. But that could have been the whole Right. But we

Cole Ingle:

agree, we agreed that the first half of plays weren't great. They just turned out in their favor. Right? Yeah. It was

Stoy Hall:

just like slow, like there was no mm-hmm. even if he wanted Audible, which I don't, he doesn't do much of anyway, but he couldn't, yeah. They were snapping at zero multiple times. Yeah.

Cole Ingle:

Um, and then you had special teams. Yeah. Yeah. Which ultimately looked like it was going to. Hurt the chiefs. Yep. To your point with butcher's, miss field goal, donk, uh, when I think we both thought they should have gone for that. I think most of America, both than three, especially knowing that Philly was not gonna kick field goals, I would

Stoy Hall:

think that for the most part, I would think Reid would, if he would go back and say, I made a mistake, I, I probably would bet it would be there. So not because he

Cole Ingle:

missed the argument I heard against that was that he, he knew depends on how brilliant you think, and Reid is, that Bucker was going to need to kick important field goals, field goal, field goals later in the game. And he wanted to get him out there early to get the first one outta the way. Thank you. I, I'm just saying that series out

Stoy Hall:

there. I mean, great. Uh, I, I head coaches if you're out there, I don't care. Also, he'd

Cole Ingle:

already kicked a, he'd already kicked a p a T. Yeah. So it's not so, and they're, they're not 20 yard pt just as far it'd beat, they're 30, 33 yards.

Stoy Hall:

So it, it was 10 yards. Right. Nothing to do

Cole Ingle:

with it. No, I, I absolutely, I completely agree. Absolutely. Um, so yeah. And then you had, um, you know, punt return.

Stoy Hall:

Hey, I, I honestly, uh, I saw this right away when he went to cut and he slipped. Everyone kind of like paused and I was like, that's gonna be a big return. Yeah. Because he slipped. Yeah. You've seen this, you've seen it before, but like that I was just like,

Cole Ingle:

no. It's just like the, when the ball gets like babbled back in the end zone and everybody just kind of over pursues, but also slows down at the same time. Yeah. And it's like the guy that's got the ball is the fastest guy on the field 99% of the time. If you lose your momentum in coverage and he gets to go full speed because he can go full speed faster than anyone else out there, you're screwed. And they were screwed. And they were screwed. I mean, that's ultimately what it came down to. Like, so in no

Stoy Hall:

block in the backs, I

Cole Ingle:

did not, not that I saw,

Stoy Hall:

not that I saw, I didn't review. No. Actually what I saw was, um, very, very poor coverage by the Eagles. Yeah. They had, and I'm not shitting you, I think it was like six or seven guys on like basically past the right hash, right. Special

Cole Ingle:

team guide here. Not a good idea. He slip, I think I I think it's a five yard return.

Stoy Hall:

Yeah. Unless he, like he would've to physically have broke that tackle at that point. Mm-hmm. right. I and the slip, who knows what

Cole Ingle:

happens. Yeah. Came to

Stoy Hall:

break the tackle away. But what it did is it the over pursuit when he slipped, they did what you said they just like slowed down. Mm-hmm. but didn't shut it down. Right. And over pursued everything. And it was bad. It was just bad. I

Cole Ingle:

mean, they did a great job recovering as processing. They forgot that their bodies were still moving Correct them, which not only that, but their bodies were moving them out of position. Yeah. Um, like unknowingly. Yeah. Uh, or unconsciously. Yeah. Right. Um, Which, yeah, that's, uh, it's so big return,

Stoy Hall:

big return for the

Cole Ingle:

guy. I mean, you go touchdown the only three and out in the game and might've been the only three and out in the Eagles postseason. I don't, I don't know. Yeah, they've been, but as good as their offense was. Um, and then you go upon return and that's when you knew, um, oh yeah. At that point. At that point, if no more six, you at least knew that it was gonna come down to I feel goal basically. Although you kind of, I kind of got the feeling of like the 49ers Super Bowl from two years ago. Chief Sis ended up one by 10, you know, like Yeah. But then Sneed comes out and decides not to cover the wide receiver Devonte Smith running down the sideline. Who then decides to turn into what looks like a drunken 88 and wanders out of bounds. I So confus after catching a fade play was so confusing. Yeah. So the defense obviously looked worse than the offense because the defense, um, I was so like a touchdown because of it, but Devonte Smith, like 99 times that a receiver catches that ball out of a hundred, that's a touchdown. I don't, he like stumbled sideways outta bounds after he got it. I don't know

Stoy Hall:

if he thought he was gonna get hit, which no one was near him. I don't know if he thought he was closer to the end zone, so he was just gonna catch it and then he just like do what he did. But

Cole Ingle:

he would've been just like passed loaf into the end zone. Yeah. Right. Yeah. No, but it was

Stoy Hall:

cr that play was, I, I was my brain hurt on that one first and

Cole Ingle:

that was like end of game. You would've thought that Devonte Smith had money on the chiefs or something. Yeah, absolutely. Like that's how awkward

Stoy Hall:

it was. It's awkward but people aren't talking about those. They're only stuck in the one thing. The other thing that I thought was really weird, and I'm. I, and I don't quite understand what was going on was when the Eagles got that, uh, Inc. The offsides down there and got the first down. Mm-hmm. um, uh, before half I was really confused because one, the guy flinched and came back. Right. First of all, the, the left guard might have been the right guard twitched anyway. Mm-hmm. false start two, that guy lunch, but got back, no one else moved except for then Kelsey stood up without the ball. Right. Which is by the way, a false start.

Cole Ingle:

And it is a false start. Even if, if that was the only thing that happened is sh still should have been a false start because the guy that moved was not over the top of him. Correct. The thing that I think they called is that Chris Jones was like helmet deep in the neutral zone. I mean, he was definitely in the neutral zone. So I, my question is though, is that like, I don't know which one, like, but that was before he Right. But if, if you line up in the neutral zone, right. So you're, you're already off sides and I jump off sides. Who's off sides? I have no idea. See this is like that, that's a tough one in my head. So like I didn't have this discussion. Yeah. Like, because the only person that to have the discussion with was my wife and kids. Yeah. But I was just like, Hmm, that's like a chicken and an egg thing. I don't know. I don't, I don't think I've ever seen it. You are going to throw a flag, you know, because that flag does not get thrown until after the snap.

Stoy Hall:

So that would be Cause they are allowed, that would be my gut would be the fact that the neutral zone is after snap false. Right. But like, I can't do off false start is prior. That would be my,

Cole Ingle:

is that not, are those not offsetting penalty? because now I You've thrown both. Well, now I've thrown the flag. So therefore the

Stoy Hall:

Yeah, but the second one didn't happen because, but it

Cole Ingle:

starts before the snap. But like, what if, what if he was just standing back by the quarterback? I have no idea. Like if he, he wasn't able to get, you know, like, let's say it was a long pass plane, he's just trying to get back on sides and then your guy Flins. I've never seen that.

Stoy Hall:

I've never seen that situation. I've never seen a center stand up without the ball. Right. Either, by the way. Yeah. Left the ball, the ball there. Yeah. Like I, I've seen him snap it, do a, it was just awkward. So again,

Cole Ingle:

still don't know what the, was one that went against the chiefs. Oh yeah. You know, yeah. A small play. Um, there was also another flinch on of third and short, uh, that, that went against the Eagles. Uh, it was a little more obvious, just like, wow. Um, but the chiefs ended up basically having to call that one. Six dudes on the chief stood up and pointed and they finally threw a flag. So, um,

Stoy Hall:

Those were some weird ones that I, I haven't seen around the, the Twitterverse at all either. But, uh, those were ones I was just like, huh, this is, this is awkward. I don't think I've seen these things happen like this. Right. Um, fun stuff, but overall pretty solid Super Bowl. Um, I,

Cole Ingle:

I can't complain. I had everything but the, uh, the Epic finish. Yeah. Which it, the problem was, is it set the table for it and so you set the table and then you tried the magic trick where you pull the tablecloth out. Yeah. And then everything just fell off everyth, So really rapidly, um, yeah, it, uh, a lot of buildup

Stoy Hall:

and, and I won five 50, so Yeah. Hey, I, good work. I can't really be upset.

Cole Ingle:

Um, most people I know, um, were actually, that had good money on it. Were actually on the Chiefs. Andrew Yeah. Was on the Chiefs. Uh, Jesse was on the Chiefs. Uh, and a lot of people had the Kelsey touchdown. Yeah. That was easy. A lot of pizza people had a, a hurt touchdown and some had both the. Hertz Touch on Ann Hertz's first touchdown. Damn. Um, so I, uh, I was getting a lot of text messages of good bets of successful Yeah. Parlays of successful, um, first half bets, and then successful endgame, um, bets with Mahomes. Finding

Stoy Hall:

a way to, I just, I I, I need, I'm gonna call you out on this one. Yep. First half under. Yep. And you took the under. I

Cole Ingle:

did. Those were, Hey. I wasn't expecting'em. Wed be playing on

Stoy Hall:

ice out there. You, to be fair, I, I wasn't either. I put a bet on the actual second half being high in scoring. Yeah. Um, for the Eagle, it was just bad. Mm-hmm. but hey, it was good. Solid football season. Yeah. I

Cole Ingle:

mean, overall very solid. Uh, really solid. I mean, for our teams, from a disappointment standpoint, like honestly, the Cowboys did exactly what I expected. Uh, your falcons actually out outperformed, outperformed, but in some ways under disappointed because of how they coached.

Stoy Hall:

They were always. Disappoint. So like that's always there, but they overperformed what I

Cole Ingle:

thought. Yeah. Um, looking forward to, yeah. What we can do in the off season from a coaching staff perspective and make some small changes. And you know, at some point Dak either has to take that next step, um, and I mean, honestly just, you gotta get to a Jaylen Hertz level. And the fact that I'm saying that is more so from just watching how he performed on the biggest stage. He made mistakes, but he always overcame those mistakes and never looked flustered. And even on the one play, um, sideline, they were reviewing the, I think it was the Smith catch. Um, and Siri is trying to mock the chief sideline. Yeah. And Hertz doesn't get caught up at the moment. He pulls his hand down. get back to focus. And so like, that's just the type of stuff, you know, it hurts me to say as a Cowboys fan, but that's the type of it of hurts you to

Stoy Hall:

say. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Wow. But anyways, yes. Yeah, I see what you're going on.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. So, uh, yeah, I was hurt. I, Hertz was the most impressive player to me in the game from an expectation standpoint. Yeah. What, what he did to elevate my perception of him in that game was more so than any other player. I agree. Um, Mahomes and Kelsey delivered and my boy Pacheco, um, they were able to run the football. They really were. And that's probably the last big point. You know, as I look at the entire game, the Chiefs literally did everything they needed to do. They protected Mahomes, they ran the football, they won special. they did the things that that teams do. They won the turnover battle. Yep. They did the things that teams do to win games. Like if you wanna look at things, teams do that. How, how did this team win? What are the records of teams that lead in this category that win games? Yeah, they did.'em, chiefs probably checked 80% of those boxes. Oh, absolutely. Um, and to the Eagles credit, they were right there.

Stoy Hall:

They were. That's, um, I it truly, um, coaching. So that's, that was the difference. Uh, it truly was. Um, and now for the Eagles floy OC in DC Yeah. It's gonna be different. You might go back, you might. Um, I don't, I don't believe so. Um, because nfcs gonna get a lot stronger. There's a lot of money, um, in free agency out there. Um, nfcs gonna be a different picture. Teams are gonna be different and stronger. And you just lost your OC in DC.

Cole Ingle:

I think a lot of will depend on, it's been tough, what they lose from a veteran leadership standpoint. Um, whether any of of those guys retire or, or anything like that. Specifically on the old line with Kelsey and Lane. Um, those are two of your best guys.

Stoy Hall:

I mean, you would think they'd have to just say, I think they'll come back. Let's do this again. I think they'll be back. They're, they're pretty good in lane, by the way. Hey, see what we're seeing first did not jump off sides every, he didn't fall, start every play. No. Only once or twice. Yeah. It was very, that was like, yeah. Night and day difference. But anyways, you're right. Um, we'll see this off. Season's gonna be fun. Exciting. We're gonna track all of that. Yeah. Um, you know, I was again proud of the Falcons. They got a lot of money to spend this off season. Really thrilled about that high draft pick. So, you know, let's do that. Cowboys will cowboy. We all know that. Um, yeha. Yep. But that's over. Football's over. Yeah. For a while. But what's not, what's not over? What's just

Cole Ingle:

heating up? Do you want to catch any Twitter videos before we jump in? We, uh, yeah, we talked about most of this stuff. I just didn't know if you wanted, I don't

Stoy Hall:

remember. I know we talked about a lot of, I just don't remember like what all we have. All right. Did we Thursday boy. Okay. Kurt's boy. Remember that last week?

Cole Ingle:

This is just the Kelsey thing. Don't care. Don't care about the, a lot of Kelsey and Kelsey's mom. If you were playing any drinking games, you probably got really drunk on that. We can,

Stoy Hall:

we can leave that one to be, uh, yeah. How we start, keep going. We don't,

Cole Ingle:

yeah, we won't watch

Stoy Hall:

golf. Oh. Um, um, did you, did you get time? Do you wanna

Cole Ingle:

talk about that one at all? Yeah, we don't, I mean, we don't even have to play the audio. We can just read that if you want. Yeah. Um, go ahead. So this was, uh, Emmett Smith was being interviewed, um, during the Super Bowl week. Uh, and he had this, which I'd never really considered, but I mean, it makes sense to say about the Cowboys offense. Under Kellen Moore, we were just calling damn plays just to be calling plays. We weren't building on anything. And what Emmett is referring to is if anyone in the National Football League has ever been a, I'll say it's system running back, but was the best at it, it's Emmett Smith and it's because that guy needed to grind for four quarters. See an outside zone look, see an inside zone look, see a left side look, see a right side look. And then. feedback from the lineman, feedback from the coaches, feedback from Emmett on what's gonna work in the third quarter and what's gonna work when we're grinding down a team in the fourth quarter where all of a sudden that linebacker is a half a step late and I break through an arm tackle because I know this. And that's what he's referring to, is the process of building a running game and building a play calling sheet script for more than just the first drive, which you hear about all the time. Everybody's got a script for the first 10 plays and then you know, everybody, everybody's got a plan until they get hit in the mouth. Right, right. And, and Emmett with the Cowboys, their plan on offense was always to go out and hit the defense in the mouth. And so in whatever way that was, whether they knew that they could attack inside, outside, you know, through the air on play action, whatever it was they were, they were always building towards that. And so whoever the offensive coordinators were, uh, and, and those times, like, that's what made the Cowboys Dynasty of the nineties so great. And he is pointing out that, you know, they've got Zeke, they've got Pollard, they've got Lamb, they've got Dak who can move, but they're not creating a plan around those guys to be like, how can we make Pollard more effective? We know we need to get him X amount of touches. So at some point throughout the game, he's gonna get 15 touches. We, that Emmett feels like that's random lamb, might get six catches in a row, might not see the ball for two more quarters. Zeke might play two drives, not get seen for six drives, and all of a sudden in the middle of the fourth quarter, we're taking Pollard out and we're putting Zeke in to get him six more carries or three more carries, whatever it may be. I'm hoping that that changes. Um, this is not something that I had actually considered. I didn't, I. I didn't love or hate Kellen Moore as an offensive coordinator. Mm-hmm. thought he was fine. But looking at it from this light gives me hope that our offense can even take it to another level because Dallas was always a, when things are going well, we can score an unlimited amount of points offense, and when things are not, we might score three. And that's what shows is that they look, they look like a great high scoring offense. But when you go back and look at the numbers, they were either fantastic or crappy and there wasn't a lot of in between. Um, they couldn't score, you know, 24 points when they needed to. Um, they couldn't score, you know, 17 points, a couple games when they needed to. Yeah. Right. You know, their defense was good enough that if you can consistently score 20, 24 to 30 instead of at some points putting up 45 to 50 and other points, putting up three to six, and that's where, you know, I hope that you know what Emmett's talking about can be implemented, cuz Dallas definitely has the pieces on offense. So,

Stoy Hall:

hey, you're not wrong. Um, my only question is, is it, is it McCarthy or is it, was it Kevin

Cole Ingle:

or we're gonna find out McCarthy's coming with those play calls. So

Stoy Hall:

show, find out. This one's hilarious and we are definitely getting some audio for this one. by the way, I have not been great, have even been showing people that No, that's fine. Doesn't matter. They didn't need it. They need this one though, and I need to make sure the sound's on. This is the

Cole Ingle:

old wait for it.

Stoy Hall:

Your player growing up,

Cole Ingle:

cam Newman. Best trash talker in the nfl. Probably Leonard ett. Oh, he talks a lot of trash talks too much. Oh yeah. I have trash

Stoy Hall:

from

Cole Ingle:

Twitter as well. Okay. Favorite sports movie? Rudy

Stoy Hall:

Most embarrassing song on your playlist, Shak. That's not embarrassing. Secure. Hips, hips. Hips. Don't lie. Oh, okay. I, I feel like Shakira is not embarrassing. I mean, the way that

Cole Ingle:

I do

Stoy Hall:

it, it's probably embarrassing. like, all right, last question. Weirdest

Cole Ingle:

thing about you that few people know. I have a foot fetish. A foot fetish? Yeah. You like toes? Yeah.

Stoy Hall:

Okay. That was my reaction. Oh, that fun fetish.

Cole Ingle:

It's the face for me. It's the face just, but, uh, yeah. Foot fetish. Mike Parsons has a foot fetish. Wow. Uh, for those out there wondering for you.

Stoy Hall:

Good for you. Uh, did you have time to, to read this? I did not, man. I'm, I don't understand.

Cole Ingle:

They're flexing. Thursday night football is that they're gonna be there,

Stoy Hall:

there is an option that it could be flexed. How the hell do you flex Thursday,

Cole Ingle:

Thursdays? Uh, it changes schedule for the week. You're gonna get, I feel like they're gonna get a lot of, no, I don't think it's gonna

Stoy Hall:

come through. However, in their, um, implemented Monday nights will be flexed. Yeah. Again though, still questioning.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah, no, it, it changes travel plans, it changes practice plans.

Stoy Hall:

Is the NFL gonna start paying for travel? Yeah. I

Cole Ingle:

mean, when they flexes the nfl PA's gonna have a lot of say in this and they already do. I mean, they're getting more and more, um, but they're not going to let these things. Thursday

nights

Stoy Hall:

definitely slide by I fine Monday because some of the Monday hasn't been good. But you can't do that on Thursday. You just can't. I don't know. Bad idea. Bad idea. Um, we're not gonna do volume cuz this one's longer, but Sean Payton, head coach Denver Breakfast. Denver Brocks. Yep. Um, is talking about the chip in the

Cole Ingle:

football, the elusive chip. Yeah. What, uh, I didn't, sorry, I didn't get a chance to listen to

Stoy Hall:

this. I didn't go deep dive into it either. but, so I, I need you guys to, to

Cole Ingle:

recognize this. So like, this is going to be, I mean, I think we can maybe do a dive this off season, but more so as we go into next season, are we going to see more chip implementation? I think so. All right. To be continued. The all uh, ah, yeah. Closest. I even posted this on my closest

Stoy Hall:

Toman in the Super Bowl. Yep. Always

Cole Ingle:

good was kudos or kudos to d Shout out to Dak. He was the Walter Payton.

Stoy Hall:

Yeah. That's why he was there, man of the year. Well, I mean he probably would've been there, but that's why he was there. And that is

Cole Ingle:

an amazing It is award. And he got booed, which, and he got booed by Eagles fans. Go, Eagles up. That's golf. My bad. That's on me. And so a lot of people were saying, yeah. And I say people, Dallas fans were saying that's karma. Yep. That's why the Eagles

Stoy Hall:

lost. Um, so we hit upon this a little bit, uh, but that's an incomplete pass. Yep.

Cole Ingle:

That's the uh, Devonte Smith pass that didn't get overturned in the 49 ERs game. and it was actually even more egregious than the 49ers came. It really

Stoy Hall:

was this, uh, as soon as I saw this, this actually, they talked about this Yep. On the air. As soon as they said that, I said, well, this one's over. Um, Pete Mahomes is going to win now. So, um, Patrick Mahomes is now 14 and 10 when his team falls behind by 10 or more points. Northern Quarterback has a winning percentage of more than 37%. Wow. Since

Cole Ingle:

1950.

Stoy Hall:

That is ridiculous. Um, again, we've hit upon it a lot. That's It's a hole.

Cole Ingle:

That's the first hold. Yep. It's just, um, just the hold and mind you, you've got a back judge that's staring right down. You just a barrel, just right soon as he sees the right hand. And I will say that, that this angle was not a camera angle that we saw. I think this was a, or a video angle that we saw. I think this was a camera shot, but to me, like. Once I saw that, I'm like, okay, that's what you can't see from all the camera angles. Love this

Stoy Hall:

one by RG

Cole Ingle:

three. Yeah, Melvin Gordon. Um, what started just with his boy

Stoy Hall:

despair,

Cole Ingle:

our of, uh, Russell at the beginning of the year and, uh, played zero snaps as far as I know. Um, didn't see him in the game and, uh, got a ring, got himself a ring, and, uh, got the hold for trophy and a cigar at the end of the year. So good for him.

Stoy Hall:

Work good for him. All right, let's, yeah. Yeah. It's called Corn Dog. So it's called what? Corn Dog. It's not, don't get it. I'll get it. I'll get, oh, the volume's been on the whole time, so my, my apologies and all. I'm gonna give you a name for it. I'm not darn. Yeah, it's called Corn Dog. It's called what? Corn Dog. It's not called Corn Dog. Oh yeah. Is it called Corn

Cole Ingle:

Dog? There's nothing better than a good corn dog. Was a mustard and, uh, ketchup.

Stoy Hall:

But he doesn't step into the huddle and say, corn dog. Oh

Cole Ingle:

no.

Stoy Hall:

He says

Cole Ingle:

Corn dog. No, he says he does. I'm give you a name. He says, corn dog. I'm gonna give you a name for it. He says, corn

Stoy Hall:

dog. Um, this, do you have more? I, I thought I put the other, I don't matter. Two by two minutes we're gonna get there. So, um, oh man, guys, this is, it's just not good football. Um, I know what he's doing, but it is, it is not good football. And this is what I mean by this. And this actually, I paused it. Very good spot. Yeah. So, um, turning

Cole Ingle:

goes in motion. This is third down and three eagles are in man-to-man defense. Yep. Clearly, obviously. Um, and this is something that chiefs have scouted, right? So they know the coverage.

Stoy Hall:

So usually you see, you know, jet motion come all the way across, whether it's a handoff, a runner, whatever. So he's going to scream at everyone to get over. In this situation I'm thinking he's replay, he's moving and they're just bumping right? Or something. Cuz I don't, I'm not a hundred percent sure why he,

Cole Ingle:

I think he is, he is going to be the man that if Tony goes all the way, the way across, he's running with him cuz it's corner, it's just corners switching. So that's what

Stoy Hall:

I thought too. Um,

Cole Ingle:

but the problem with that is, is where number two ends up on this play,

Stoy Hall:

he's covering That'ss What one, that's what's, that's what screwed up to me. That's why I was like, I think my thought was when, when, when we run this on defense, there'd be a couple things we would do. Um, either you'd have him run all the way over, you'd actually have a safety move over. He would bump back to safety depending on your skillset. Um, he would stay there or he would bump over to man here, there's just things you could do. Right. My issue with all of this, where's number two's eyes? Where is number? I don't know your number. Where are your

Cole Ingle:

eyes? Not on the offensive players.

Stoy Hall:

They're

Cole Ingle:

nowhere near looking at this. But if you watch, uh, I don't, and I hope we have the other play, but if you watch the other touchdown, this was a scout. This is a hundred percent. This is how they do eagles play motion. They won't do it again. Um, because, so essentially what happens is, is he's supposed to have him, by the way. Yeah, Tony went in motion and then he reversed his motion. But what the chief saw was that the eagles overplayed motion every time, and that if you just reversed field. there's literally no one over there because they overplay the motion so hard to protect against the jet, sweep the opposite direction, which by the

Stoy Hall:

way, these guys aren't stopping the

Cole Ingle:

jet sweep. Also, they're already overloaded on that side because that's the strongest or the run side of the defense. It

Stoy Hall:

was so bad. I mean, it was bad from a defense perspective, but

Cole Ingle:

great scheme. They did it twice. They did it twice. And so the, I mean, that's kind of the proof in the pudding of not just, this is how the Eagles play it and we're going to make them pay for playing that way. Just here it is right here. Duh.

Stoy Hall:

All right. Let me, lemme

Cole Ingle:

get in here. So this does a really good job of showing, so let's just,

Stoy Hall:

just simultaneous here, lemme go back. Uh, just watch, throw'em my ball. Obviously we saw the one at the top Motion

Cole Ingle:

already. Motion run back the other way from where the motion came from. Nobody on that side of the field on zero play, nothing. Sky Moore gets one. Touchdown Kius, Tony gets the other one on the exact same play the other side. Um. foot long corn dogs are good. How about a double corn dog? Double. A double foot foot Chiefs gave him was a, so let's

Stoy Hall:

watch Double corn dog. This is the other side. Let's watch bottom screen for all those 24

Cole Ingle:

goes. 29 is now out of position because he's going to switch and take the motion and he is literally just trying to beat him to the other side of the ball. Wait, he is already gone. He's, but why?

Stoy Hall:

He is at least three yards ahead. No, I I'm, are you that slow? Like I, that's it. And then Yeah, he does. And then there's just no one there. What's best though? Watch this watch, watch him fly over and then he just points. Yeah, and it's like, uh, uh Oh yeah, because you sprinted

Cole Ingle:

and you never saw him and you never didn't have eyes on him. I, yeah. But the fact that it was two different guys that did that, or was it 29 on both sides? I don't, no, it was 29 on both sides because 29 was in the slot. It's coached obviously. That was, and getting pushed. He got pushed by two from one side. He got pushed from 23 on the other side. But like, it's

Stoy Hall:

the thing that you took off and didn't look mm-hmm. both times. The second one was worse cuz you were way ahead over here. And no matter if even one of these guys, oops, my bad up here. My bad. We're on the top. Uh, if any one of'em just looks mm-hmm. they at least could, I mean, it's a touchdown anyway. Right? But they at least could recover. Not look like idiots. This is just poor.

Cole Ingle:

Just poor. But that's the second one. That's the, that makes the worst. The worst one. It's worst. So like, you already saw it once and they just said, you know what, let's run mirror and guess and

Stoy Hall:

guess what happened, like as a defense, when you see a look and you see you're gonna go, I'm gonna be hesitant. Right? I'm not

Cole Ingle:

like, no. He sold out more on the second one than he did the first one. so

Stoy Hall:

bad, so bad. Um, I, I am gonna put this quote up here. I think, um, I learned a lot about Hertz. Um, throughout the Super Bowl with his dad, his coaching, and mm-hmm. obviously his perseverance and being able to come back. We, we know that, that's been documented. It's the maturity to say something like this after a game that big of a game where you literally dropped the football. Right? Yeah. Um, and, and his quote is, we came up short. I, I think the beautiful part about it is everyone experiences different pains, everyone experiences different agonies of life, but you decide if you wanna learn from it. You decide if you want that to be a teachable moment. I know, I do. Yeah. It's powerful. Mm-hmm. it really is. And that's all it can be. Um, don't drop snap. No. And

Cole Ingle:

this guy's been, I mean, he's been through, he's been on the big stage with Alabama, Oklahoma. Um, he's been through a lot of pain points, same thing. Um, and he's only elevated himself through everything, whether it be college, uh, or, you know, First, second years with Oh yeah. With the Eagles. Uh, so I only anticipate that that's going to continue. Hey, he's earned my

Stoy Hall:

respect on that path. So he's a top 10 quarterback of my mind. Yep. Okay. I like it. So let's, uh, we're gonna get, now we're starting into golf and we'll end with the, the, the story of the week, right? Yeah. Um, if you guys don't know if that is, you guys are still having a rough time, but here is, um, what's good for him, you know, good for you. This happens and you still win the attorney. Um, I, I first saw this and I was like, oh, that's a really good shot. Oh, this might go in. It's got a chance to go in. Oh, cool. It's gonna stop, you know, short. Oh, taping. Taping.

Cole Ingle:

Even Stoy can make that one. Yeah. Shit. Oh.

Stoy Hall:

Oh wait. Oh no. Oh God. Yeah.

Cole Ingle:

It was breezy on, oh boy. On, uh, Thursday at the old Phoenix Open.

Stoy Hall:

Yo. Okay, then I'm like, here. I was like, ah, the fringe will we'll be good. We'll be good now. We'll be fine. No, we're gonna be, oh, no. Oh no. Lisa, stop there. At that point I thought it was going all the way down. Yeah. Could you? It's just the bad luck. Yeah. By the way, if, if this ever happens, we're playing on putting it back by our foot. I'll miss the putt, but like, I'll put it there. I'm putting that thing back. Next hole. What the hell is this,

Cole Ingle:

right? Yeah. Great shot. Um, could not have played that bad. No. Maybe if you didn't spin the ball and you weren't so good at golf, you wouldn't have to worry about that. I mean, both of ours were bouncing out, let's be honest. uh, so that's eight 30, hitting the green. Right, right, right. Uh, so we're good there. But that's, uh, yeah, you're, uh, you're champion. Scotty Shuffler just right

Stoy Hall:

there over overcoming, um, the breaks. Ed breaks. Here it is. Here it is. In all the glory. The man, the goat, the king, whatever you wanna say. Tiger Woods is back. Sweet. And I quote, I'm ready to play an actual PGA tour event next week at the Genesis, at the same place that he had his accident tore up his leg. Mm-hmm. Yeah, let's go. All right. Jacked.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. We'll have, I'll pick him to win. We'll have some tiger side bets this

Stoy Hall:

week. Oh, we have to, we didn't have any side bets last week. Yeah,

Cole Ingle:

so I was a lot going on. We had a lot of Super Bowl side beds. Not even that really, but No, we didn't. It just, we had one,

Stoy Hall:

one that mattered. Like everything just ended up, Matt, when I was going through, I was like, when I first, since I went right, and then top to

Cole Ingle:

bottom, I'm like, well, I mean, speaking of it before we get

Stoy Hall:

tomorrow, I'm, I'm sitting here going like, oh shit, this could get bad. And then it all equaled out. So yeah, shitty shot for the soup Super Bowl, uh, came down to our tiebreaker, which started the game. Right. Um, our little run pass whiskey. Yes. That's root beer.

Cole Ingle:

I didn't know there were more than that in there. You knew there was Martin in there Um, yeah, just recapping the, uh, the Super Bowl bets, uh, sto I both took, uh, took Philly to win. Um, I hedged that with the chiefs.

Stoy Hall:

Oh, I can't get the cap open half, I can't

Cole Ingle:

drink it. And he had Philly cover as well. He had the over 50 and a half, which slay. Uh, I had the under and the tiebreaker in our one and two battle, um, was first play of the game to be a run in our pass. And I took run. So slate, slate it. And now Stoy is, uh,

lended

Stoy Hall:

whiskey with 80% green. Neutral spirits. Yeah, 49 and a

Cole Ingle:

half percent. A not root beer barrel. At least you knew it was coming and it's still bad. See? And it's still bad. Now imagine if you thought that was gonna be root beer. Yeah. Now it's gonna be this week for you. Might as well eat a cherry. I'm about to Here. I'll save you guys. You want to pick your golf one now? Take it later, guys. Gosh, I really hope there's not another one of those in there. There's not.

Stoy Hall:

I know. Um, um,

Cole Ingle:

woo. Worst one ever. It'ss worse. Yeah.

Stoy Hall:

It has no flavor. None. No. It actually, there's a barrel on here. It tastes like if you would chew the outside of the barrel. Yeah. And then it's just awful. Yeah. How good. Mixed with more different lalacs than I

Cole Ingle:

start middle finish. Awful, awful,

Stoy Hall:

awful. That's bad. Yep. I'm actually looking forward to the bananas. I

Cole Ingle:

mean, that's an actual shitty shot right there. That is, that's bad. And you hadn't taken the shot in a while, so you, I haven't You deserved a, yeah. A good shitty shot. Yeah. There's some good face there. Oh. Ah. All right. That was fun. Can't wait till that gets cut up this week. Yeah,

Stoy Hall:

go ahead. And some reaction. You can start the golf there, buddy.

Cole Ingle:

All right. Jump into, uh, the Waste Management Phoenix. I don't even know if you wanna call it a golf tournament. Entertainment venue, venue, concert venue, uh, streaker venue. All I

Stoy Hall:

know is I had a lunch today with an insurance broker guy. Mm-hmm. And he even brought up with a couple buddies that they were talking, we talked about this last season mm-hmm. um, that this should happen, you know, at least three times a year. Yeah. I, you know, we've said two, right? For sure. Three, you could stretch, put two for sure. Um, so if, and he, and he's, I'm just a ha like legitimate hack golfer. He's a, I'm like, yeah. because it's fun. Yeah. It's entertaining. Um, and again, we'll allude to it again. They'll live once that Right. And that's the whole point, but mm-hmm. um, yeah, you can, you can call it a, doing what the

Cole Ingle:

Liv can't, you can call it an event, drawing the viewers and the fans over 300,000, uh, fans there.

Stoy Hall:

You know, what I loved the most about it is all of the names that we discussed, e that were on our board and off our board. Mm-hmm. definitely played well. I mean, the really, the one that was wrong the most was JT for you. Mm-hmm. that like of all of them Yeah. That we discussed. I mean, Fowler, yeah. Looked good. Mm-hmm. right. So it was, it was pretty, pretty

Cole Ingle:

solid over on. Yeah. Um, tournament was great. Uh, very windy and a little chilly. Uh, frost delay on Thursday, weird. And uh, and then the wind was, um, wreaking a little havoc. So definitely had, um, some influence there overall. but, uh, ultimately, uh, the cream kind of rose to the top there. Mm-hmm. um, as it always seems to do, uh, in that tournament. And, um, you know, Scotty Scheffler ends up pulling it out. I think three strokes is what he ended up winning by. Yeah. Um, but uh, was closer than that going into, uh, basically came down to two putts, uh, put on 16, put on 17 for a guy that I'm, whoever the guy in second place was, that was kind of a surprise. Not really remembering his name right now. Don't really care his second place. But yeah, he, uh, he had a six footer on 16 that would've kept it competitive and had a putt that had no, like Shuffler was walking his putt in on 17 and it lipped out. Um, and both of those would've kept whole 18 more competitive, um, where Shuffler would've actually. Had to do pressure a little bit more. Um, other than make, I think he had to make a double bogie on 18 in order to, to win. Um, so, and he made either par or Bogie one of the two. So, um, so yeah, kind of a same type of finish as the Super Bowl, as we kind of alluded to. Uh, one of those things where had a chance coming down the stretch and just kind of fizzled out as far as being super exciting. But, uh, always a fun watch nonetheless and picks for the week. Um, you had Hadi at plus 3,500, uh, finished T 29. Yes maam. And I had Sam Burns. Yep. Our, um, plus 4,500,

Stoy Hall:

I just told you. Hey, I just want everyone to know I felt good about that one. Yeah, right. Um, I all alluded to that before he picked Right. So he just followed what I said. Yeah, yeah,

Cole Ingle:

yeah. Uh, and he finished tied sixth, uh, as one and done, uh,$652,500 to the kitty also at this. We, I don't know, we haven't really hit on it, but this was, was it this week or last week? That was the first, I think it was last week. It was the first week of the new PGA payouts. They are large. Second, second place made over 2 million in this one. Yeah. And Sky it was, it was ridiculous. Close to four, um, you know, burns finish outta the top five and still makes over a half million dollars. So those are the kind of pots you're gonna start to see kind of purses you're gonna start to see throughout the year. So don't be as surprised as those numbers are going to be very large. Uh, Phoenix opens actually one of the larger ones as well though. Um, just because of the fanfare that comes around that. I mean, they make

Stoy Hall:

a shit ton of money. Yeah.

Cole Ingle:

Like it's be real. Yeah. I mean, it's a, yeah, it's a four day event. It's, it's, um, it's a thing. So my father-in-law flew in on Friday night and actually ended up going with his buddy to the tournament on Saturday. It took him an hour to get. in the gate to an area to where they could watch. And they were in either, I think they were in on 17 around the bleacher area. He was on TV on Saturday and then Fox had their pregame show on Sunday and they were three rows deep directly behind the guys doing the pre-game show. And he was on TV like four different times. Oh, nice. On the Fox pre-game show. Nice. So like he had himself a weekend. He had a weekend. Um, yeah, definitely lived vicariously through, through Gary this weekend. So, um, shout out to him for getting to see his team win the Super Bowl, getting to go to the waste management. Right. And also getting on TV and getting to be about eight feet away from Gronk and the crew there on Fox on, on Sunday. So weekend. Yeah. Had, had, got, got back today still. I mean, I think he'll, he'll be on Cloud nine for a while,

Stoy Hall:

so, yeah, that year made, his years probably made.

Cole Ingle:

So yeah. Worth, uh, definitely worth every penny there for him. Uh, moving back to golf though, outright winners, uh, soy. You took Houma who had a moment out of the sand, didn't we? I thought we had. Yeah, we, you did. We you skipped it and then didn't get back to it. He threw a club, threw a club, laser gens. He threw a club and then he commented on it. Yes, which is great. Not his greatest moment, but, uh, home was always a, he's always a fun follow. Ended up T 39, which was not as good as he would've liked, but struggled a little bit at times. Uh, I went with Fiau, uh, just another solid finish. Uh, tied 14 was never really in the running, but never out side of the top 20 either. So, uh, solid showing for him. Dark horse, black stallions. Uh, we went with Sahi. Takala for you and Jason Day for me. Oh, damn. Uh, J Day has been consistent and, uh, good. He finished fifth outright. Wow. So that was, uh, a big day for him, a big payday for him on top of putting back-to-back tournaments together and starting to put solid round after solid round together like we were used to seeing shoot, five to seven years ago. Yeah. Um,

Stoy Hall:

he plays like this. He's gonna win this year. Yeah, I'm just

Cole Ingle:

saying. And, uh, he's gotta stay healthy, you know. solid showing Never was really in the running for this one either. Uh, he also tied 39th. Um, so that was where, uh, I had a solid top of the board. Yeah. And you had a solid bottom of the board. Uh, Bo Hostler, your boy, boy, Bob, um, you're my boy Bo shot, uh, 800 Yeah. On Sunday, I believe.

Stoy Hall:

Yeah. To get the T 14. Yeah, absolutely. To get

Cole Ingle:

to 800. Yeah. Because he was even par and finished T 14. Awesome. So he went from outside the top 40 to very deep, well, very deep inside. Um, shot the lowest round of the week 63. Uh, Tom hok missed the cut. Uh, I had hok and then players to fade. You absolutely nailed. Can't lay, um, in all of the ways he, uh, was bad to, um, tied seven, uh, for favorites overall to start. He missed the cut. Uh, I had jt, uh, didn't start well, but, uh, put a handful of solid rounds together. Uh, ended up T seven, kind of actually kind of shook the bed a little bit on Sunday. Um, but, uh, he finished fourth. Yeah,

Stoy Hall:

fourth. Yeah. Um, that's the

Cole Ingle:

opposite of a six. So he, he got himself into some big money as well. Um, he didn't get a ton of TV time though. No, he didn't. Um, especially for him. Usually he really did. Even if he's on there, um, you're gonna see him. But you had ramm and Shuffler, um, rom didn't even play good golf. And somehow that guy is just, was there, there. He's just there fingering. Just there. Um, that's how good his game is. And the amazing amount of respect that those guys have for him is that Scheffler was basically pulling the ball for two and a half days, off the tee, and Rom just never felt like he was ever in any flow. And those guys shot what, like 20 and 1600 bar, um, you know, against that field. Yeah. So in those, it just tells you how good those are. There's so much shuffler. Just like every time I feel like he's going to drop down, he finds a way to score it. It's like he's like the giant version of spe because Yeah. He can still putt. Yeah.

Stoy Hall:

I, I just don't think he's gonna have the, the mental thing with that spe went through

Cole Ingle:

and is still, I just battling with. um, ever since the Masters he is. But the thing with, yeah, and the thing with Scheffler is that he's so unorthodox in, in all of his things. Like he's not, he's not robotic at all. I think that helps. So that helps, yeah. Speaks more the way that he scores. Whereas speech robotic surprised to get back to being golf. Perfect. When his game is. Feel, feel. And so like at some point you have to just feel it. Let it go. Let let it go. Uh, yeah. Um, that's my three year old's favorite song right now. Do you think We have children, so um, I hear that every night before bed, but uh, yeah. So that's, that's my thing with Sheffler right now is the guy, the guy can feel himself away around the golf course, um, better than anyone else in the world right now. And that was obvious by this tournament because he wasn't playing his best golf and still dominated that tournament. Yeah, absolutely. Um, pretty much led wired wire he did. And so same type of thing. He, uh, he's been in every tournament this year. and he scheffler is now number one in the world. Ramm is still two, in my opinion. Ramm is number one. Ramm is number one based on how he's played throughout the year. Correct. Now those two probably gonna battle it out with a couple other people. Rory hasn't really hit his stride yet. Um, Fowler and day are lurking. Yeah, they look good

Stoy Hall:

and it's gonna be fun.

Cole Ingle:

I think this year now we have Lt Gray coming back, so some of the OGs coming back, coming back. Oh, it's hard. Can he withstand We'll

Stoy Hall:

talk about that. But hey, before, before they grinded, before we get to the Genesis mm-hmm. our weekly ranking, we tied, we both had nine points. So it, it pays the score. I have scored, I think I, I'm pretty sure I've scored at least a point every time Right? In that it pays, it pays to do that.

Cole Ingle:

So we are now season points, uh, to your point, 20 to 15 year lead. Uh, shitty shot count is now even at two, and you are getting dominated in the money count, but that's only because Sam Burns. I mean, we're gonna see that number fluctuate quite a bit and look like it's way out of reach when it just takes one, one win. One T six, one TC one t six to get back in the, the rankings. But without further ado it. It is,

Stoy Hall:

it is time. Time. Where's the, which?

Cole Ingle:

Like which one do you want? The It is time. I don't think we have it. Yeah, it's our

Stoy Hall:

intro. Oh, this one? The goon

Cole Ingle:

squad.

Stoy Hall:

We haven't. It is time. Yeah, but it's not on here. Oh,

Cole Ingle:

it's here. It's

Stoy Hall:

on, it's on. Wow. I'll work on that. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I do. I do. But it is time the genesis Open. Um, if you guys are not aware, it's a big deal. And the reason it's a big deal is Lt Gray is back, and I am pretty damn excited because the way he was striking the ball, um, at the event was pretty

Cole Ingle:

good. Yeah. Ball striking not an

Stoy Hall:

not an issue. Can he walk for four days, is really the issue. Mm-hmm. and, um, we'll, see. I, I'm gonna take mine. I don't think he's ready to go. I think he's ready to

Cole Ingle:

go. Mean, obviously he's not gonna tweet if he's not, so Tiger's been pretty quiet.

Stoy Hall:

Yes. So this is the difference of this year, last year. Mm-hmm. for me, last year he was talking a little more mm-hmm. he was talking about, oh, I'm not quite there. You know, I'm getting worked up and grinding into it. Right, right. All of those things. Dude hasn't said a word really. This, this year. No. And then all of a sudden just says it's time. I'm ready. Mm-hmm. that, that bodes well, I think, in my opinion, and I, and I believe you saw glimpses of that, obviously with his ball striking. Yeah. Um, he's always gonna have a limp, so I swear if you comment about his damn limp, limp even more. Move on with life. Don't watch golf. You suck. He's gonna have a limp. He limps. He has a leg that is longer than the other. Okay. In pain. So get over it. But ball striking. Legit. So, to tiger, I'm taking this shitty shot. That's not the reason, but I'm

Cole Ingle:

going to, that'll be better than what you just did. It's

Stoy Hall:

so much better. Yeah. You know the banana runts? Mm-hmm. Andy, that's what that is. Fall by cherry. So let's get into it. the Genesis Invitational hosted by

Cole Ingle:

Woods. Mm-hmm. um, as I think we mm-hmm. most, no. Um, played at Riviera. Uh, you wanna check weather? Mm-hmm.

Stoy Hall:

we got the weather. I'll do it. Um,

Cole Ingle:

this is a, just an absolute beautiful golf course. Um, outside of the majors might be a top two golf course. These guys play all year. Yep. Um, from a golf course, beauty perspective. Yep. I don't know if that's the right word, but, uh, just a, just a wonderful golf course. Players love it. Um, and, uh, there will be a lot of fanfare here as well. Um, three weeks in a row where there's been quite a bit with, uh, pebble Beach ProAm, and then you have. obviously ProAm and, and all of the celebrities and all of the people in general at the Phoenix Open. And Genesis also has a ProAm. Uh, also gonna be a ton of people, uh, around. So Tiger's gonna be there. A huge buzz in general because it's Tiger's tournament. But golf, the P PGA tour is going, is off to its hottest start in a while. I would say ever Debatably. Yeah. As far as from a start, I would have to do a lot starting perspective of what it's, how it's built up and you're building up to obviously Tiger. Um, but like you had the most fun golf tournament last week and then you get Tiger, get Tiger this week and you get the release all week this week of the Netflix documentary, which BJ's doing well. Um, I've seen just a couple snippets.

Stoy Hall:

Glimpses really like

Cole Ingle:

it. Oh my gosh, I'm all about it. Yep. So, uh, maybe a little bit more about that next week, uh, as I get a chance to dive into those. But, uh, yeah, just, uh,

Stoy Hall:

so weather, weather report. Mm-hmm. Thursday 63, high. Friday 64, high. Saturday's the issue, 64%. Chance of rain at 63 degrees. Okay. Mm-hmm. Um, okay. All right. Random adss. Get out, get out the way. Um, wind's gonna be on Saturday, on the rain day, about 13 miles an hour. Seven to 13, not, that's not bad. Mm-hmm. um, not bad at all. So really just, uh, uh, what is expected at this time of the year. Oh, um, wind gusts on Friday, 16 miles an hour. um, Sunday, which is the day that we all hope that tigers in contention cuz the world and Twitter will break. Mm-hmm. again. 16. So we're gonna have Gus up to 16 all week. Um, with steady set, five to seven miles an hour. Nothing that is unexpected. The rain on Saturday could, could be an issue, maybe delay little things. Right. Um, but again, it's only Tuesday, so we've got some time before, before that report is true. Yeah.

Cole Ingle:

Um, a lot of big things coming out this week. Um, you know, you've got, I mean, Tiger's gonna be the talk of the town. Who? Tiger. Oh, that guy. Tiger. Woods. Tiger, tiger, tiger, tiger Woods. Y'all. Y'all get it. Um, I just hope there's no delays. that would suck because based on your weather report. Yeah. I have two concerns for him. One is delays. Delays, okay. Delayed. That's gonna be bad. Yeah. Because he is going to be very much in routine of, routine of warmup, stay in, stay warm, continue to play throughout the round. The other concern is rain and joints. Remember it rains or any precipitation, but rain your joints hurt. Yeah, they do. Especially when you're old. Part of being old. Um, which we experience now. Yep. Um, I knew it was gonna rain today before it rained and now I know how my dad felt. Yeah. And he would just be like, oh yeah, it's gonna rain. Like, uh, how do you like Yeah, I feel it because my knee's about to, you know? Yeah. So like, I feel that now. Right. Um, and that's how I, it's like a. I've been, she's your old christened with age. With age, yes.

Stoy Hall:

Um, with age. We're just gonna, by the way, video, have the video in the background while we chat about course. I

Cole Ingle:

mean, just look at the place. Just absolutely. I want gorgeous. I'm want go. I just want to be go there. I just wanna be there.

Stoy Hall:

I would have fun. Yeah.

Cole Ingle:

Um, but, uh, yeah, I mean, big things this week. The green's a little tougher here. Um, the good guys play well here. Um, if you look back, you know, last three or four years, uh, there's always big names at the top. Um, and it's a big event. So these guys, I mean, just like last week, um, these guys know that, uh, the field is going to be tough, the purse is gonna be big. Um, the crowds are gonna be big, huge. So, uh, those, those. better known names usually do, um, better in those situations. Yeah, absolutely. Uh, the nerves are not as much of a thing for them, uh, as they are for, for most others, so, yeah. You're

Stoy Hall:

not wrong. I mean, it is a, it's a pretty deep field. Yeah. Ladies and jets, this is, this is what you want to see. Yeah. Um, yes. A lot of fun last week. Uh, but this week, uh, this week, let's get down to some just gritty, solid golf. Now, how hard would do you think they make this? Like, um, is this the type of course where they ratchet it up or, you know, are we talking, you know, under 10 wins it or are we still in that 10 to

Cole Ingle:

18 mark? I don't think there's gonna be enough wind. Um, I don't think the rain keeps them from scoring it. It needs weather to protect it. Yeah. I mean, I didn't, I didn't hear enough wind. I didn't hear it's just gonna in your forecast. No. Do you want to, although I will say, The Phoenix Open, got more weather and was on randomly more random weather. They got all of the weather there. They went from stocking hats and fairly heavy jackets to shorts and t-shirts, weather throughout the week and throughout the day and throughout the week. Right. Um, with wind. Yeah. So, yeah. And then throw wind on top of it, so, absolutely. Absolutely. Oh man. Where do we wanna start today?

Stoy Hall:

Let's start, uh, let's go in the middle, let's do top 40, then we go down. Okay. And then we'll go dark horse up. Let's switch it up. Okay. Top 40. I mean, you know where we're going ladies and gens. I mean, come on. Is there another top 40? Although Bo is still plus one 30. Mm-hmm. you should, you should take that. You should probably take that guys. He's not doing it. Huh? You're not riding it. I, I want to, so bad. I gotta see what tickers at plus 200 on, uh, Jeff Kings. This is by the way, for top 40. Yeah. See what, uh, Fandule can get us.

Cole Ingle:

Uh, what did you say, hustler's? One 30. Yep. And Sea Gras 200, 2 10.

Stoy Hall:

Oh, okay. Not too bad. Not too bad off. I re I really, really would love to ride with my, my tigre.

Cole Ingle:

We can do a separate tiger

Stoy Hall:

bet. Let's just do separate tiger bets. Yeah. Cuz his first all of our tiger. So I'm gonna ride with, with Bo at plus one 30. Like I don't understand why I wouldn't tell me. I mean, let, let's be real here. People. Yeah.

Cole Ingle:

He's played a lot of golf. He's probably getting tired.

Stoy Hall:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like no one can say that early in the season too. You're not gonna say that when you're. with Tiger this weekend in the, the energy on the course. There's no way you feel tired, there's no way nerves. Why get to him? He's young. Okay. Might happen. But he's, he's playing good golf. So I'm gonna ride, oh,

Cole Ingle:

where am I going here? Where am I going? Hmm. Do, do, do, do, do. Who's gonna go? Who's gonna have the hot putter this week? That's ultimately what it's gonna come down to. You know what? This guy won a couple weeks ago. Mm. and, uh, give it to him. Give it to him. Not a, not great odds overall, but, uh, I'll take Justin Rose plus 1 0 5. Jay Rose.

Stoy Hall:

Okay. With a week off. Yep.

Cole Ingle:

Did not play last week. Makes sense. One, two weeks ago, uh, at Pebble, um, playing some good golf and it's going to be, um, in the top 40. There you go. And did you, which way did you say we're going?

Stoy Hall:

Uh, down, down, down. So time to fade. Um, easy for me. I'm, um, I ride the Cantley train to the ground still no need to change that. Um, plus 22. He is, uh, ninth, flat out ninth. Can't

Cole Ingle:

lay at ninth. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Yes, indeed. Uh, ninth. All alone.

Stoy Hall:

Oh,

Cole Ingle:

by, and oh man. It's not an easy one. It's not. Um, just quick top 10 rom McElroy. Shuffler Shuffle. Thomas Fiau. Homa Makawa. Cantley. M and Holand tied. Yes. Uh, I mean, uh,

Stoy Hall:

yeah, I mean it, there's only one that's not playing good golf. So, sorry about it. We're going Okay. Land nine.

Cole Ingle:

Oh man. What do I want to do here? I want to go with, oh,

Stoy Hall:

finish outside. Like,

Cole Ingle:

man,

Stoy Hall:

You can't pick any of the top four Pheno. Maybe jt he proved you wrong last week. Yeah, almost playing at home. Right. Bad idea. He loves this course. Marco Kawa also plays well with this course. Yeah. Then you really got Cantley, Holin and m maybe those I if, if you're gonna choose three to fade. Yeah. I don't see how you could choose, unless you're just playing the game. Obviously you could always go rom and I'm

Cole Ingle:

gonna say the game. I'm gonna, I'm gonna say Shuffler. Shuffler. Okay. Um, chances are he doesn't win back to back. No, you're, you're not wrong. Um, hasn't, it doesn't happen very often. The, so he's third. Yeah. Um mm-hmm. Okay. I can't be mad about him not going with Cantley. Also Uh, so, and I think that he bounces back after a bad week last week. So,

Stoy Hall:

um, yeah. But a bounce back for him would be be top 40

Cole Ingle:

Oh, I get it. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Make the cut. Absolutely. Cool. Um, but yeah. Um, yeah, that's not by pick, you know, that's with the greens being what they are. Um, shuffler can get a little loose with the putter. Mm-hmm. Um, he can also get en fugo with a putter. So, so, um, all right, chef, all that I'm, uh, feel that's fine. I would not put, I would put negative dollars on that Ne

Stoy Hall:

negative dollars.

All

Cole Ingle:

right. Black Stallion. Uh, black Stallion. I don't think there's

Stoy Hall:

another,

Cole Ingle:

um, wow. Side of, let's see, what was that? 5,000? Yeah, I mean, gimme Ricky, god damn it, beat him to the punch son. He's right at, plus he's right at plus 5,000,

Stoy Hall:

5,500

Cole Ingle:

and, uh, get that, get that 5,500. I will take it. Um, yeah, gimme Ricky to stay hot

Stoy Hall:

between two people and for two different reasons. Yeah. Kegan Bradley, um, he's been playing decently. Mm-hmm. Um, and again, we'll play better early in the season. Yeah. Corey Connors always wins early in the season for some reason. I don't understand that Canadian

Cole Ingle:

space. I haven't noticed. Has he even, I don't know

Stoy Hall:

how he's been playing this year. Yeah. I don't know how he's, I haven't heard.

Cole Ingle:

Right. You know, we've been doing so much good research that

Stoy Hall:

it's football. It was football season. I'm just like, what are we supposed to do? I get, I get it, I get it. Um, so, you know, you know, gimme Keegan at uh, plus 6,000 by the way, for all of those counting at home. By the way, if we weren't doing Tiger Side beds, tiger would be my top 40. My dark horse. Um, I'd leave it at those two, by the way, because I will ride Tigre to the ground. Oh. Look at this DraftKings Tiger Woods to make the cut, boost it to plus 200. Draft Kings

Cole Ingle:

gonna make a lot of money this week.

Stoy Hall:

Yeah, that's a tough, that's a tough cut to make.

Cole Ingle:

Yeah. I mean, he's plus 12,000

Stoy Hall:

to win. No, he's not. He's plus 15,000

Cole Ingle:

Go to Draft Kings folks. Um, wow. Yeah. Then you've got, um, it's gosh, plus 12 and these, plus 15 on DraftKings. Yeah. 15. Yeah. That is huge. I mean, honestly though, 50, that's huge. There's nobody at plus 15 on pdu. You can't get those odds for anyone. 14

Stoy Hall:

to 16th. There is There's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 12,000.

Cole Ingle:

There's a, there's six F 15. Yeah. Same thing with 12,000, or actually there's eight, 12,000 on pand,

Stoy Hall:

zero at 12. Mm-hmm. it's weird house. Weird. For, I mean, to, to say that I'm not gonna sprinkle some on Tiger's.

Cole Ingle:

Um, I can get you 6,500 on FanDuel for King Bradley though. I will take it. So, um, alright, winner, you wanna go first? You want me to,

Stoy Hall:

uh, I need to scroll back up. The outright winner. Um, boy. Oh boy. Oh boy, oh boy. Oh boy, boy, boy. This, um, man, I really would like to take those guys. Uh, this, this feels like a, a Mara Kaba type situation for me.

Cole Ingle:

I'm riding my boy Max this week. Yeah. I like,

Stoy Hall:

I don't, I don't, I don't hate, I'd like both of them. Those are my two that I was picking between, so, um,

Cole Ingle:

plus two thousands for 2000 and Yes. So, yeah, I don't even need to put that in there really. But

Stoy Hall:

even there, Go one and done one and dones one and dones. You know what, this is just cuz he is playing so well and I gotta give the, I'm, I'm all about the old dogs in this one. Give me j day plus 4,500 if he's gonna win. Oh yeah. He's only 3,700.

Cole Ingle:

Ooh,

Stoy Hall:

okay. Okay. If he's gonna win, it's gonna be early. Um, or at a or at a major. I don't think there's an in between. Yeah. For him. And, uh, yeah, let, let's do that. Although I don't like the cold. I don't When you have back, when you have a, a back thing, cold weather's probably not good. Yeah. But I'm gonna, I'm gonna ride with him. Um, I'm all but nostalgia this week all about, oh

Cole Ingle:

man, who am I?

Stoy Hall:

Tiger. No. Save that one for the masters.

Cole Ingle:

Oh, I'm actually debating moving Homa to my one. And done. That's actually

Stoy Hall:

n a good call. I think I'm gonna

Cole Ingle:

do that. That's a good call. He's plus 2000. Yeah. I'm gonna go one and done with Homa this week. I like that. Um, at his home course. So I need to switch my outright now. Outright Winner. My outright winner for the week.

Stoy Hall:

Pronunciate

Cole Ingle:

the Ts. Ouch. Outright. Outright. What's up? We're gonna mix things A little sty.

Stoy Hall:

Oh, he's doing it. Ladies and gens. Ladies and gens. We have our first, I don't, I don't know what we call'em, but shitty shots side.

Cole Ingle:

We

Stoy Hall:

call it a side. Shitty. A A side shitty. Shitty side. A shitty side. Uh, Cole take the

Cole Ingle:

honors of why, um, I am going to actually switch out and I'm going to take, cant lay ah, as my outright winner. Mm. Fresh off a miscut. And he is super fresh. He's been playing Genesis, getting the fuel of the land, the lay of the land all week. Um, he's not a guy that stayed around the Phoenix Open for damn sure Um, he's gonna fly under the radar as Tiger comes in, makes his big entrance this week, and he will find a way to get the w The w, yeah. And give Stoy three shitty shots. Wow.

Stoy Hall:

Going all out, huh? Yeah, I like it.

Cole Ingle:

Well, I mean, he is my outright winner, so. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. He would be triple for you. That would be right. Mm-hmm. a double for the win, and then one for, since we both chose him. Yeah, this isn't outright winning, right? Yeah, absolutely. All right. How, I just wanna, sure. I add the

Stoy Hall:

rules for how that, how that works if he doesn't win, cuz he won't. Right. uh, since I faded him since, um, he has to fade, I believe that's this way, he has to fade more than 10 spots. So he has tot 19 and, and you have a shitty shot, right? Yeah. That, how that works on the bottom side. Correct. So there it is. And if he's, if it's any, you know, anywhere in, in between, then I have one shitty shot. Yes. There it is. So,

Cole Ingle:

uh, quick recap, uh, top to bottom here, one and done. You've got, uh, J day, I've got Max Homa at his home course Outright winners. You've got Colin Mark Hawa, I have Patrick Cantley, you have Keegan Bradley as your black stallion. I'm taking Ricky Fowler. Bo Hostler is continuing to get, Road like a rented mule by Stoy in the top 40. It won't stop. And, uh, I'll take Justin Rose, um, playing well this year. Uh, also top 40 players to fade as we just talked about. Patrick Cantley for Stoy, who's projected it at ninth. And I have the last week's champion, Scotty Shuffler, uh, who's predicted third here, fading him. See how it goes. We

Stoy Hall:

will see how it goes. Okay, big week

Cole Ingle:

here, uh, for golf, big week for Tiger. And on that note, we will do our tiger bets

Stoy Hall:

Tigre bets. So very easy one. Makes a cut. Yes or no? I mean, let's go.

Cole Ingle:

Do we have to play

Stoy Hall:

both sides? Don't have to. Don't have to. Okay. Tell us. We're just gonna say'em and then we'll then we'll choose. So makes a cut. That's one. Um, Let's see here. What do you, oh, I see what you're doing. Yes. Yeah, he's gonna make a cut. Okay. He's not gonna miss the cut. Yep. All right.

Cole Ingle:

Um, top 20. Top 20. Be good one. I mean, what's his tiger's? Very, um, that's one thing that over the last few years he's become very much a realist. Mm-hmm. and your talk with how he talked last year about comfortability coming back and everything like that, this question will get asked. Mm-hmm. at some point this week. We'll, you know, possibly have a clip or anything like that. You know, what's your expectation this week, tiger? Uh, that'll be the question and Media day and Tiger will give us a very candid answer. Um, is this the number?

Stoy Hall:

Um, while I'm back up? I don't think he gives one this week. I don't think his, I don't think he's that way right now. Okay. He's not even there yet. I'm saying I I think he's saying I'm gonna win. He won't say I'm going to win. He's saying I'm in the tournament. I'm playing to win. Okay. So you think, I think his mindset has changed. You think he's all the, you think he's flipped back? I think he's back in his mind, right? No. And

Cole Ingle:

physical. I think he's back and him the game of golf, that's all that matters. I I, let's be very clear. Yes. Especially for the guy that's the greatest of

Stoy Hall:

all time. I think he flipped that switch. Okay. And the only reason is cuz he's been silent. Oh, silent. And his ball striking was in, in the event was he was ball striking better than them. Yep. That's fine. So I think he has flipped that switch. So top 20 for you top? Yeah. Yeah. I'm give him, I'll give him top 20. I prefer like a top 25, but like top 20 is, if he doesn't, I believe he'll be disappointed. Okay. I am going. No, that's fair. I,

Cole Ingle:

I, and definitely can see that there's only one reason that I'm going. No. And it has been an issue that Tiger has dealt with, I feel like, since the injury, but I think it's because he's had too much time, his putting Oh, it's gotten worse. What the hell? Um, he has similar to like spe as far as like, not really on the short, short ones, yeah. But as far as just like misreads, um, maybe messing with. you know, feels gotta be a little bit different on the, yeah. On the knee, changing putters, like that type of stuff. I mean, J t's kind of gone through it as well, but I think that the putter holds him back this week, um, which is just going to motivate him any even more, uh, as he moves through the season, I think. But that, that's my, my one thing that I think keeps him from being really in cont uh, contention this week is there's gonna be one or two bogies and, or one or two missed birdie opportunities because in combination each day, because of flat stick, they end up being on the flat stick where, you know, instead of three under, or instead of 500, he shoots three under. That's fair. You know? Um, and that's going to add up over four days, um, to be, you know, top 40. I, I feel fairly confident in Yeah. But I, I don't think much more than that. Yeah.

Stoy Hall:

I, Hey, I, and I can because of that club in, that's probably the club that comes, it, it obviously, it always comes outta putting, let's be real, but like, you're, you're not wrong now, I, I just, I There's something different. Yeah. There's something different. I'm not, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna ride on him until he shows it because there's just, there is just a different tone Right. To this season with it. Um, and I, I truly believe, I, I think he's a hundred percent health as healthy as he could ever be. Right. But I think he is like the plantar fasciitis and that stuff allowed him to put, he could still put a ton. Yeah. And you just broke the computer. Yeah. Um, good thing. And, and so I don't, I don't, I think now mentally I think we're gonna see, I think we're gonna see, we're gonna see dacker. I think we're gonna see the real tiger. Free the putter up for him. Yeah. No, I think he'll still be, it'll be, it won't be Tiger Que yet. I think that's a buildup, because here's the thing, it's still just off.

Cole Ingle:

I think with the putter that he, goat Tiger was so good at putting, because it was a, he, he knew he could score and belong and mm-hmm. do anything that he needed to do with all of his other clubs. Mm-hmm. and I think during the injury period specifically, he knew he had to put well to score. Well, like he couldn't do the shuffler type of things or the speed type of things. The pressure was on pudding. So the pressure, even though he was just ball striking great. And that it wasn't necessary, his mindset at some point, I think flipped to that. Um, and it doesn't have to be a big thing in golf. It's always small things. Right. Um, that, that led to that mentality of, oh, I've gotta make every putt. It's like, no, you like your tiger woods, you're gonna make a 40 footer. You might chip in, you're gonna like, fine. And like at some point he lost that a little bit. He did. And that has actually hurt his pudding because he is not as free. Yeah. Uh, on the greens. Now, if what you're saying is true and he's changed the mindset of what's my goal this week? Which, what, what I'm thinking is that, you know, he would say something along the lines of top 20 and you're saying No, the reason he's back and the reason he is playing this week is because he's, he's over all of that. And I hope, I hope No, I know. I know. But that's the case. No, no, no. Really do, um, really do, but we'll, he, yeah. We use, uh, time will tell. Um, any final tiger beds? I don't know. I'm,

Stoy Hall:

I'm trying to think of some other ones.

Cole Ingle:

I mean, there's not really, I mean, obviously he's gonna, he's going to be playing golf. Yeah. Um, so like any types of shots you think he might hit? Um, any other clubs? You,

Stoy Hall:

ah, let's do this. This will be fun. Does he chip in? Uh, how about this? You just, you said it. Yeah. 40 footer or a chip in. Does he do one of those? You want 40 footer? No, like 40 footer and, and or a chip in. And I

Cole Ingle:

know, but we need to, I need, we need to set a specific distance. 40. Are we going 40? You set 40 in a chip in, so let's don't how many greens? There's 40. I I have, yeah. No, no clue. Clue. So we're going 40 foot or chips? Tough

Stoy Hall:

one.

Cole Ingle:

I, I mean, I mean the big thing is, is if he makes the cut. So if he gets to play four rounds, I say I, I, I feel something like that's happening. Something is going to happen if he gets cut. I mean, not to say that it can't happen. The greens are, are true there, but they're not easy. Um, which allows for the chip ins and that type of stuff. But if you think he's going to be really good with his irons and in play with driver, like, he's not gonna get a ton of those opportunities. Right. Uh, so I am going to go with no. Yeah,

Stoy Hall:

yeah. No, I agree. Um, uh, and a chip in, i, if one was to happen, I believe a chip in would be, and it would be like a short chip in. It won't, yeah. It, it won't be something crazy. He just

Cole Ingle:

missed Well, left himself short-sighted or left himself. Yeah. And inside

Stoy Hall:

with a potentially easier to chip it than put it type of situation. Right. Um, I, I just don't think this early on he's in informed enough to do those. He might

Cole Ingle:

hit it. All he's been doing is chipping and putting, which in my mind is why he

Stoy Hall:

would. Yeah. I, I, I, I, I, I see how we'd go that way. Right. But not when you put the whole thing together. Okay. And you have to walk. Um, and we've seen him before that like, Even early last season or when he was coming back, you know what I'm changing. Those short games weren't great either.

Cole Ingle:

He is, he's alright. He's doing the

Stoy Hall:

damn thing. All right, now we need a tiebreaker.

Cole Ingle:

Oh well damn it.

Stoy Hall:

Yeah. Yep. Um, ah, how about this? Well, is average drive distance? Is it longer than pick somebody jt? Just cuz they're buddies? No. Average drive distance. And is it because of accuracy you think? Or actual distance? I'm saying yes by the way. And it's because he did it at the event.

Cole Ingle:

Oh, that's great. Um, I. I don't, I mean, he's gonna be amped, don't get me wrong. Just a gut feel. Yeah. On that one. Yeah. Uh, dry. And we're going. J JT is our Yeah, let's

Stoy Hall:

go. Jt. I just, cuz they're buddies. They play together. I, I don't know. I have to r Yeah. Yeah. Let's switch it to Rory. Yeah, let's do that. Oramm or female? Yeah. Or female. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll still take Tiger and those, um, to be less shorter. Uh, yeah, I think that's a fun one. All right. Driver distance. There we

Cole Ingle:

are. So we've got, uh, both of us have him making the cut. I've got him outside of the top 20. You've got him inside, which I will be rooting for him to be inside the top 20 all day. Um, actually no, I, I'll say this, I will be rooting for him to be inside the top five. If he is outside of the top five, I will be rooting for him to be outside of the top 20 That's fair. That's fair. That's valid. I want him to be in contention or. Ow. Yeah. Um, I do want him to play four days so that he can chip in, uh, randomly on Sunday as he goes from Tide 55th to Tide 43rd Um, that would be just fine. And, uh, you know, he can spray the ball all over the yard if he wants to. I don't think that's gonna happen. Um, I think he's gonna have that thing on a string, honestly. But, um, Riviera can get tight in a couple spots. Sure can. So I can see some three woods being hit there. Not to say that he can't hit three wood. Right. Um, well, uh, JT can either be great or struggle. Again, not a lot of wind here that's gonna impact one way or the other, so. All right. Well, let's get it. There it is. It's Tiger Week. Have a week. Welcome back. Y'all go watch the Netflix documentary. If you have a chance, uh, inside look at golf that, uh, give you, uh, an amazing appreciation for the game. The players that play it and just how damn good they are and all the interactions that happen inside the ropes, um, that we don't get, uh, much of a chance to see throughout just a normal

Stoy Hall:

broadcast. So, nope. And we'll bring, we'll bring that up next week. Absolutely. Absolutely. Huh. Have a good week.

Cole Ingle:

Well then it's time.

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