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Ep. 64 - Fraud Or Not?

[00:00:00] Cole Ingle: Well then it's 

[00:00:05] Stoy Hall: time. Squeak my chair some more. Mm-hmm.

[00:00:11] This is the NFC South. This is because it's gonna make 

[00:00:16] me 

[00:00:16] Cole Ingle: physically ill. Yeah. 

[00:00:17] Stoy Hall: Playoff race. Mm-hmm. . Everybody's in playoffs. Playoffs. Someone's making it someone. Meaning someone's gonna have to go and play at their home field. At their home field. Yeah. That not, not good, huh? This is not, this is not what I envisioned now I 

[00:00:39] Cole Ingle: envisioned us, I'm gonna say these words right now.

[00:00:42] Honest team in the N F C South is Carolina Panthers. Gross. This year we're gonna go through three quarterbacks and trade a top three player in the N F NFL and a coach, and we're gonna be the hottest team in the NFL and we're gonna get rid of our coach. Yeah. How about that

[00:01:08] Cinderella story? I tell you what, it's Cinderella story. I tell 

[00:01:11] Stoy Hall: you what in the. Should have lost last week. Which one been great? 

[00:01:14] Cole Ingle: Just leave this right here. This is where we'll, do we have any other NFL news after this? This is where we're gonna start. Fraud or not? 

[00:01:21] Stoy Hall: Okay. Right here? No, I think, uh, I think we had something about the dolphins or some shit, but No, I, I'm not worried about 

[00:01:26] Cole Ingle: that.

[00:01:27] This is fraud or not. NFC South. And here's 

[00:01:31] Stoy Hall: how're gonna, they're 

[00:01:32] Cole Ingle: all frauds. They're all frauds. All frauds. However, the biggest fraud in the NFC South. the Bucks. Thank you. Who is ? Who are winning the South? I just want people to be, they're the biggest frauds, but they're also the favorites to win the n Ffc South because 

[00:01:50] Stoy Hall: of Tom Brady.

[00:01:52] That's it, right? Who also has been fraudulent this year. 

[00:01:55] Cole Ingle: So with four games left, 

[00:01:59] Stoy Hall: I look at their schedule. I gotta pull up schedules for this situation. Who? 

[00:02:05] Cole Ingle: Who win? Is the least fraudulent team in the NFC South.

[00:02:15] Stoy Hall: Um, so the Bucks play the Panthers and the Falcons still? 

[00:02:22] Cole Ingle: Yep. Oh, they get, you get, I think every one of them plays still has at least two division. Yes. Because Left 

[00:02:29] Stoy Hall: Riter starts his first NFL game against the Saints. Yeah. the least fraudulent. 

[00:02:35] Cole Ingle: Baseball games, but Bucks also have the Bengals. I know at least one game.

[00:02:38] Uh, 

[00:02:40] Stoy Hall: I believe here, here, here's how the bucks end up. Bengals. Cardinals. Panthers, Falcons. So 

[00:02:47] Cole Ingle: they're losing to the Bangals. They've got, they're one and one, and then they have two division games they're losing to the Bengals. Right. That's what I'm saying though. They're, they're in one. They're gonna beat the, the Cardinals, they're gonna lose to the Bengals.

[00:02:58] So their two division games are gonna determine whether or not they go to the playoffs. Correct. And who are the two, two division games? Falcon. 

[00:03:04] Stoy Hall: And then Falcons week 18. 

[00:03:05] Cole Ingle: So they've got the next two best teams, uh, in the division, um, basically, which will determine, and 

[00:03:11] Stoy Hall: the Panthers have Steelers, lions, bucks, saints.

[00:03:18] Cole Ingle: Literally week 18, can they go three and one week, 

[00:03:20] Stoy Hall: 18 could come down to the Panthers, saints Box. 

[00:03:25] Cole Ingle: Falcons nine wins is guaranteed, but eight wins is gonna win this division. . Yeah. Which is how fraudulent it is. It's so bad. 

[00:03:37] Stoy Hall: S so bad. So least, and it's the 

[00:03:40] Cole Ingle: buck's fault, so least fraudulent team is the Panthers because they're technically the worst team.

[00:03:46] Even, even with the Saints. Yeah. Yeah. Um, however. Mm-hmm. , what's the Saints schedule? Do the Saints have any chance of going four? Oh, 

[00:03:56] Stoy Hall: well, they let me. Where are they? Oh, they had to.

[00:04:02] Let's see. They've got the Falcons. No. Oh no. Falcons, Browns, Eagles, Panthers. They're gonna lose 

[00:04:12] Cole Ingle: the Eagles if the Eagles have not already clenched, which 

[00:04:16] Stoy Hall: they probably will. Which 16. It is plausible. It's not probable, but plausible. Plausible that they go forward. No. Okay. Like everyone's in it. Every, and 

[00:04:28] Cole Ingle: it's not, however, the hottest team in the NFC South right now is the Carolina Panthers.

[00:04:33] Mm-hmm. , um, I'm rooting for them. Sorry. Um, you're starting a rookie quarterback. Yeah. 

[00:04:41] Stoy Hall: I don't, I mean, where, where 

[00:04:43] Cole Ingle: that bucks are putrid and I will not root for them. I do not want them to win. And I think the Saints are the best team in the division. However, they can't find a way to get over their own. And adult starting our own way this week.

[00:04:54] Yeah. So, 

[00:04:55] Stoy Hall: um, I would, I would agree. I would concur. Uh, I believe we have the best offense Yeah. In the division. Just the fact is Mariota can't complete a pass and we don't know what Ritter came. 

[00:05:05] Cole Ingle: Well, I mean, you can see points, four points against, uh, Falcons have the best offense. Worst defense bucks have the best defense, worst offense.

[00:05:13] Panthers are somewhere right there in the middle. The saints are, and the saints are only two points away from also being right there in the middle. Um, correct. So the, I mean, all of these teams are the same, sh all shitty . So we've, we've confirmed they're all frauds. The only team that's not a fraud is the Panthers.

[00:05:33] Well, here, I'll say this, the Falcons and the Panthers, neither team are frauds simply because the Falcons have already surpassed wind. Total , and, and the panther. Literally are playing with the kitchen sink, correct. Right now. And they're all doing, so those two are plants, house money, success. Yes. They're house money.

[00:05:48] So, uh, house money won't spend any more time on that unless you've got any more thoughts, uh, from that. But I wanted to start in what I thought was the, the shittiest spot. So there 

[00:05:58] Stoy Hall: we are. Well, you, yeah. You can't get lower than empty south. 

[00:06:01] Cole Ingle: Yeah. Go Panthers. Go Falcons, Cuba. The, the fighting Cuba Hubbards, the 

[00:06:07] Stoy Hall: fighting Hubbards.

[00:06:11] Love it. All right, 

[00:06:12] Cole Ingle: next up. Next up. Uh, sticking with teams. Let's just get right into it. Pull the Band-Aid off. Um, Minnesota Vikings. 

[00:06:22] Stoy Hall: The Minnesota Vikings 

[00:06:24] Cole Ingle: best team with a negative point differential in NFL history. Minus one so far. 

[00:06:31] Stoy Hall: I've been saying it all year. Their defense is bad. Yeah, they're fraudulent.

[00:06:38] They're frauds. I'm not gonna say they're. Their defense has very big issues. 

[00:06:45] Cole Ingle: And let's clarify this. They're 10 and three, they're winning their division. They're not going oh four here on out. They only need one more win to clench. They're gonna win the N FFC North, they're gonna host a playoff game. How fraudulent are they?

[00:06:57] Stoy Hall: Uh, there's, there's a handful of matchups that I believe they'll lose in that first round because of their defense. Who can 

[00:07:03] Cole Ingle: they beat in the first round? Anyone in the NFC South? They don't get to play them. I know Sea South gets their own. Here's, here's your, here's your options. Commanders. Can they, 

[00:07:17] Stoy Hall: huh?

[00:07:17] Yeah, giants. Well, giants are fraudulent. They're on the down hall. So if the Giants get in, I believe they can beat the Giants Seahawks. That's their one win. 

[00:07:27] Cole Ingle: So those, I mean, the problem is, is that all three teams that I just mentioned are also going to be on our fraud or not team list. But that's why I wanted to start with the Viking.

[00:07:37] is do, are they, are they real enough to beat another fringe playoff slash fraud or not team? They are. 

[00:07:46] Stoy Hall: They, they can 

[00:07:46] Cole Ingle: win one game, one playoff game. So over under one and a half playoff wins is an under for you? For Minnesota, it is for me as well. And to me, based on the success of their season, the number of wins they're gonna end up with 11, 12, 13, somewhere in that range.

[00:08:02] They are frauds, they're. and they're frauds not because of Kirk Cousins No. Who threw for 400 plus yards, uh, in a loss last week. But they are frauds because of their defense, which 

[00:08:15] Stoy Hall: I didn't, beginning of the season, I would never have said those words. Correct. 

[00:08:19] Cole Ingle: So 

[00:08:20] Stoy Hall: yeah, we are in green was 31 for 41, 425 yards, 

[00:08:25] Cole Ingle: two tis and didn't turn the ball over.

[00:08:27] So I mean, yeah. How many guys have had that stat line and. I bet that's a 90% win rate with a, a stat line like that. 

[00:08:36] Stoy Hall: Now I will say they were down big, so, but 15 cares, 23 yards for Dalin Cook. Yeah. Their, their run game is Yeah. Borderline fraudulent, but their defense is an issue and I set it, yeah. All year long and it's gonna come back and bite them.

[00:08:51] That's why they act, they can't go deep in the playoffs. They just zero chance. Very 

[00:08:54] Cole Ingle: well, we'll stick, uh, let's just run through the NFC all the way. Uh, we'll go N ffc East next. Uh, three potential. Very good potential actually at this point. Teams to make the playoffs there, or excuse me, four potential teams to make the playoffs.

[00:09:09] Yeah. Um, so all four, the eagles are gonna win the division. Arguably the best team in football, cowboys fraud are not on the eagles. Yeah, they're good. Nothing. They're good. 

[00:09:19] Stoy Hall: They're good. Yeah. Good football team cowboys. They're good. It's a good football team. 

[00:09:24] Cole Ingle: Don't discreet giants fraught. Pure. I think we both agree they're headed the wrong direction 

[00:09:30] Stoy Hall: and they look like the giant set we thought they were forever.

[00:09:34] Cole Ingle: Whatever reason, though, I, it's not any one thing with them. It's not just Daniel Jones. It's not just the coaching staff. It's not just the defense. It's some of the ness you see on special teams. It's things tend to snowball in the wrong direction for the giants. over under half a win in the playoffs for them.

[00:09:59] I don't, I don't think they get there. Perfect. Exactly. Uh, so we're both in agreement there. I think they end up falling out as well. Um, the giants are frauds, uh, pure frauds. Mo moving to the matchup. Um, Sunday in the division this week, uh, the commanders of which this game ended in a tie last. to, uh, , by 

[00:10:21] Stoy Hall: the way, just to tell.

[00:10:22] Yeah, it went Giants Commanders Tie. Yeah. Giants go and get their ass beat. Commanders are on a bi week. They play again. Yeah. 

[00:10:29] Cole Ingle: So the commanders are like five, one in one in their last seven. And it's a tie against the Giants as they're one tie or like, yeah, and then I don't know who they lost to, but no matter the Vikings, they're trending in opposite directions here.

[00:10:43] The question is, is like when they did lay each other, they tied, so they both looked fraudulent. The commanders for you are No, they can't be fraudulent. They can't be fraudulent cuz they're not good 

[00:10:53] Stoy Hall: enough. They were supposed to be bomb nfcs. Right. 

[00:10:57] Cole Ingle: They can't be fraudulent. And technically they are.

[00:11:00] They're just better than all the, they're the NFC South. They in 

[00:11:02] Stoy Hall: the NFC South Lebanon and half in half of the NFC West, so Yeah. I mean, yes. Um, so they can't be fraudulent. Right. And I have them being the third team in 

[00:11:11] Cole Ingle: from the east. So you've got them in and possibility of winning a playoff game against.

[00:11:18] 49ers, they 

[00:11:20] Stoy Hall: would match up four cowboys, the Vikings or the Vikings. Vikings would be the worst matchup, like no back up commanders would be the worst matchup for the Vikings, in my opinion. Okay. 

[00:11:32] Cole Ingle: I don't have, well, they can't be worse than the Cowboys. what the cowboys would be the worst 

[00:11:36] Stoy Hall: match up for the vices?

[00:11:37] Well, I mean, yeah. Because of prior history. Yeah. Um, but I, I think the commanders would be, um, due to just pure scrappiness, obviously the cowboys would be cuz they whoop their ass, so. Okay. That's is what it is. Um, the, the Niners, um, they're, they're just out there for me. I mean, they. They're a solid squad, but yeah, commanders are not frauds.

[00:11:58] Having them, the playoffs, the giants are the frauds. All right, 

[00:12:01] Cole Ingle: fair enough. Uh, moving to, let's move right over to the NFC West. Yeah. Um, you got the 49ers trending in the right direction, even though it's with a backup quarterback that defense is healthy. 

[00:12:10] Stoy Hall: Technically it's their 

[00:12:11] Cole Ingle: third string going back.

[00:12:13] Yeah. Correct. Well, and at one point fourth and at one point fourth. 

[00:12:16] Stoy Hall: Yes. So their backup is, uh, the, the greatest journeyman in the history of nfl. Yes, indeed. 

[00:12:23] Cole Ingle: Uh, never a doubt. Never a doubt. But they, uh, 49ers look good. They look like a top. Mm-hmm. , uh, three NFC team, uh, top five six N NFL team overall, just depending on where you wanna slot 'em based on, uh, losing Deebo Herz, ultimately having deebo out the last few weeks of the season.

[00:12:41] High ankle sprain though. Good news. He's not out long term because boy, 

[00:12:45] Stoy Hall: did that look like Yeah, it looked like a broken 

[00:12:46] Cole Ingle: leg. That looked like a lot of things. Yep. And. , so they're going to win the NFC West finish in that two or three spot overall, depending on how the Vikings finish, I think they'll finish two.

[00:12:57] Um, and the Vikings will finish third. That's just kind of how I see things playing out based on our conversations as well. We think the 49ers are for real, uh, Seahawks. Um, they are doing what the Giants are doing and that's kind of where I go back and forth is the Giants. I can't pinpoint it, the Seahawks, I can pinpoint their run defense.

[00:13:19] Atrocious. 

[00:13:20] Stoy Hall: Terrible. Like they're just really, really bad. 

[00:13:23] Cole Ingle: And so they get the 49ers this week, which we'll get into, but 49ers on the ball really well as they checked. Um, and they have a guy that knows how to game plan to run the ball. That game's in Seattle. Yeah. The only thing is, 

[00:13:34] Stoy Hall: I can't call 'em fraudulent because I had him fourth Correct.

[00:13:37] Cole Ingle: And then FC West. So they're not fraudulent. They're 

[00:13:40] Stoy Hall: overproducing what I 

[00:13:41] Cole Ingle: thought they would this year. No. And Gino's been more than sufficient as quarterback based upon the 

[00:13:46] Stoy Hall: year of play. Mm. Yeah, they are, 

[00:13:50] Cole Ingle: but they're less fraudulent than the Giants, in my opinion. Oh. Um, as far as ability to do something on the offensive side of the ball, that may be to offset, um, the, the Giants just extremely leaky run defense.

[00:14:03] There's no issue. 

[00:14:04] Stoy Hall: Like there should be no 

[00:14:05] Cole Ingle: issue. Right. Seahawks are gonna make the playoffs though, I believe. Who do they play the last four weeks? That's gonna make a difference actually. Well, we know who they play because they're not gonna win this. No. And they need to win two more games, in my opinion, to begin.

[00:14:20] Oh, they playing 

[00:14:20] Stoy Hall: Saturday, by the way. They're Saturday football. Yes. There is everyone to know that. A 

[00:14:25] lot 

[00:14:25] Cole Ingle: of it. 

[00:14:26] Stoy Hall: Four games I believe. Yep, it's great. Uh, Seattle Last four, uh, Niners Chiefs Jets, 

[00:14:35] Cole Ingle: Rams. Gotta win. Gotta win. Two outta four. Not 

[00:14:39] Stoy Hall: great at Chiefs. They'll lose that one. Yeah. They have to beat the jets in the Rams skating.

[00:14:44] Yep. Which very. . Yeah, 

[00:14:47] Cole Ingle: very positive. Um, so yeah, I'm gonna have the Seahawks sneaking in as the last, the playoff team. Uh, they will then I like that get in a new date with 49ers will get into that a little bit later with the playoff machine. But, uh, I'm not going with fraudulent because they've been better than I thought.

[00:15:03] I didn't think that their run defense could ever get this bad though. Being on in. Uh, Pete Carroll system? I didn't either, but it's 

[00:15:10] Stoy Hall: baffling. It's really bad. Yeah. Um, 

[00:15:12] Cole Ingle: and, and I don't know if they've had, I don't follow the sea loads enough to know if they've had injuries that have caused this. I don't, I know they've been consistently bad throughout, but like they've been really good at times as well.

[00:15:22] So I don't know. I 

[00:15:23] Stoy Hall: got nothing. I know we ran all over 'em early in the season, so I don't, like, I don't, I don't think the run, run defense has changed. I think overall defense has improved, but I think the run defense is still. , 

[00:15:34] Cole Ingle: um, any chance do you see anyone, uh, like a, a Packers team making a late run?

[00:15:40] They're fraudulent, in my opinion, to the point where they're, they're not good enough to make a run. Um, really that's about the only other team. So you're gonna have a Seahawks Giants and if, if a team like the Packers or two teams from the NFC South happen to go three and one that might be able to sneak in, I don't see.

[00:16:02] None of those teams have showed me any indication that they can win three outta four games. Zero, which is what they would need to do in order to even be in the conversation, whereas all of the teams that are in the conversation can go two and two or one and three and still be in the conversation. So, um, agree.

[00:16:17] I would definitely give the edge there. Now the cr, 

[00:16:20] Stoy Hall: the crazy thing is the NFC, and we'll get to it in the playoffs, but that it's very close to being absolute chaos. Two. Yeah, a hundred percent. We're not, the Vikings can lose out. Mm-hmm. , I don't know their schedule, but realistically they can go one in three.

[00:16:31] Uhhuh . Oh yeah. The Cowboys could, I don't see the, the Eagles at worst could go two and two. 

[00:16:35] Cole Ingle: Like if the Viking still still one in three. Their worst seat is the three. 

[00:16:40] Stoy Hall: I know, but I'm just saying that causes pure chaos for the rest. Oh, a hundred percent. A hundred percent. So like chaos is not off the table for the mc at.

[00:16:47] Cole Ingle: It's all, it'll be interesting to see. We talked about one scenario already as though is playoff positioning based on knowing matchups for the top four and how those wild card teams decide to play their last couple of weeks. Oh, absolutely. Knowing that a, a loss might be more valuable to a win in, 

[00:17:09] Stoy Hall: in, in their mind.

[00:17:09] As crazy as this may sound, . It literally may come down to, because there's two NFC South Games at the end of the year. Yeah. It might come down to those two as one of those wild, those scenarios that someone played for. Yeah. Which is nauseating. 

[00:17:24] Cole Ingle: Yep. Um, cause it's gonna make 

[00:17:26] Stoy Hall: me physically ill. NFC South has so much power right now in the playoffs and they're putrid.

[00:17:32] Yep. They're gonna go one and done. Right. And, but it wouldn't surprise me if they won the first round. Right. And got hot. No. Like, 

[00:17:39] Cole Ingle: and it won't be, uh, they're not getting hot. But how, I mean, in their, in their, and they're winning one game. Yeah. One game's hot, hot two in a row, for damn sure. No, you gotta win two in the NFL to get hot.

[00:17:48] Right. They'll 

[00:17:49] Stoy Hall: probably win week 18 to get in and then win again. That's two in a row. It's two in a row. Let's two in a row. It's hot. Win. One more. We got a winning streak. Whoa. Hey, it's NFC South. We don't, we don't do 

[00:17:59] Cole Ingle: those. Well, let's switch over from the FFC South to the almost as putrid AFC South. Oh my Lord.

[00:18:04] Uh, so we have the, uh, the division leading Titans. Um, We have the bottom dwelling worse than the league Texans, and you have the Colts, uh, who are out of it, and you have the up and coming jaguars. The two teams we're gonna talk about here are the jaguars and the titans. Let's start with the Titans, rod or not.

[00:18:34] Stoy Hall: This is the, this is the toughest fraud or knot for. . Um, it's because like their records probably where I would've, I would have them because I had eight and five. Uh,

[00:19:01] why is it, what, why, why is it? Oh, they're seven, six, um, oh seven, six. Okay. I would've had them eight and five. Yeah. But I would have, you know, the cults battling with them. So Right. From that perspective, not Right. But they've lost three in a row. Yeah. And they look, 

[00:19:17] Cole Ingle: they've looked bad doing it. They 

[00:19:18] Stoy Hall: looked really bad doing it.

[00:19:20] Mm-hmm. , um, they can't run the ball. They can't throw the ball. Right. They can't really stop people. I mean, their defense is the highlight of, of their team. They can't do anything offensively. And that's what's. . How, how, how can you not, you have weapons. So, um, that's why it's like very borderline fraudulent to me.

[00:19:40] Um, but I will say that they are frauds because they don't have the eight wins. They have the seven. Yeah. Where I would've predicted them to be at at this point. Um, not to mention they should have ran away at this division. This division is horrid. Yeah. Um, and they just never taken advantage of it. And guess what, now you've put yourself in a situation where, Uh, you're not even favorites this week against the Chargers.

[00:20:05] Yeah. So here you are. Um, the FFC South is, I'm not gonna say it's up for grabs, but it is. There's an issue. 

[00:20:16] Cole Ingle: So here's the, this perfect, uh, segue conversation. So the Jaguars are fresh off a two touchdown victory against the Titans. Um, and that's, they're five and eight. Trevor Lawrence. The last three weeks is number one rated quarterback in the nfl.

[00:20:31] Fugo in the NFL has Trevor Lawrence arrived. We'll talk about that a little bit later. The Jaguars have pieces, have a ton of young talent from the drafts, seemingly putting it together at the right time. The Jaguars have the Cowboys, the Jets, the Texans, and they get a season finale against the Titan.

[00:20:57] they can very realistically go three and one, if not four. And oh, in that 

[00:21:01] Stoy Hall: scenario now, the Titans have chargers, Texans, cowboys, and then Jacks. Yeah. 

[00:21:08] Cole Ingle: Yeah. The problem is eight and nine does not get you into the AFC playoffs unless you win your division. Unless the Titans, Lou 

[00:21:20] Stoy Hall: basically only beat 

[00:21:22] Cole Ingle: don't go, go one and three, which they're gonna play the Tex.

[00:21:26] and they're gonna play the 

[00:21:28] Stoy Hall: Chargers Cowboys. Oh, actually that game, I actually, they could lose the Chargers. I, I can see that. Yeah. The Texans is probably a victory that gets date is a loss and then it's a, it's a winner. That's why I said 

[00:21:40] Cole Ingle: they gets 'em to eight. It's a winner in, that's a week. 

[00:21:43] Stoy Hall: Seven teen songs.

[00:21:44] The Jags 

[00:21:44] Cole Ingle: went out Jags. As long as the Jags go three and one, the Jags can lose this week to the Cowboys. Fi man win their final three week 18 could be so excited because they would own across the board two wins against the Titans. They would win the tiebreaker to win the a AFC South, potentially making both the N FFC and AFC South Champions trash eight and nine and just pure trash and the four seed hosting a one 

[00:22:06] Stoy Hall: game.

[00:22:07] And, and they'll probably go to the, the championship game. Just cuss. Just cuss. Why not? 

[00:22:13] Cole Ingle: That's a team I can. with more possibility of getting hot than anyone in the NFC South than anyone in the NFC South. It's not close. No. Um, 

[00:22:23] Stoy Hall: you kidding me? You could put all four of 

[00:22:25] Cole Ingle: the rosters at MCs South the, again, Jacksonville fraud or not?

[00:22:29] Definitely not a fraud. No. We, I think we just had an agreement on the, the conversation of Tennessee is a fraud compared to they were expected to be a lock. They are not delivering and appear to. Dwindling hard. Yes. Yes. My, I would have a better time going over one playoff win for Jacksonville better than I would for Tennessee.

[00:22:55] However, Tennessee is very much a matchup team. Correct. So depending on who would be coming their way, uh, as the five 

[00:23:02] Stoy Hall: seed, I promise you, they don't match up well at the Chargers this week. Right. Yeah. So, 

[00:23:09] Cole Ingle: so, uh, yeah, that, that division, uh, yet to be said, um, Titans or frauds, uh, Jaguars, we are rooting. It'll be so fun.

[00:23:21] So fun, so hard for them to pull out. Um, as much as we're rooting against how terrible the NFC South is, just in general, we're rooting for somehow the Jags to make the AFC South just as bad. Bad, but in a more enjoyable way. 

[00:23:34] Stoy Hall: Yes. Right. So, well, I mean, it's because it's. They're trying to lift the Right, right, right.

[00:23:39] Everyone in the C South trying to bring it down. That's fair. That Isely fair. That's, that's the difference. So, 

[00:23:44] Cole Ingle: uh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Jump and to, uh, AFC North. The North. Okay. Um, we've got dub division. The division leading Bengals. I love the, they're gonna run away with that. Good lord. They're looking the right way.

[00:23:58] Um, we both agree. They, they are not fraudulent. No. They have fixed problems on the offensive line and they have fixed problems on the defense and they're looking every bit of a top three AFC team. Uh, if not at the, they're actually tied with the Ravens three top overall team, by the way. Uh, but semantics.

[00:24:16] That'll be our next team. Oh yeah. Uhhuh. So, um, let's get right to the Ravens who are quarter. injured, but also have lost two, if not three games that they just gave away this year because their secondary is anemic. Oh my Lord. Um, you're not fraudulent at this 

[00:24:34] Stoy Hall: point. Their, their back end is bad, but scary.

[00:24:38] They have been 

[00:24:38] Cole Ingle: over here though. They're scary but fraudulent. Yeah, because they should be better than what they are. Mm-hmm. , they're front seven solid. We don't know Lamar Jackon status. We don't know even if Huntley's gonna play this. Which is insane. So this is the concussion protocol. 

[00:24:53] Stoy Hall: Um, to me, I don't think I, and I don't know who do they have in the season, the Ravens Brown at Browns home against the Falcons home, against the Steelers at Bengals.

[00:25:04] Although I think, uh, the Bengals game, the Bengals might not play anybody who knows? Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, nine and four, they're, you know, they're in the race with the Bengals. Right. So, 

[00:25:15] Cole Ingle: but I mean, we're both taking the Bengals to win that division. 

[00:25:17] Stoy Hall: Absolut. . Absolutely. Um, you know, the Ravens get in, I believe.

[00:25:23] Obviously they can. Yeah, they'll get in. I just don't, it's it's the Huntley injury that bothers me. Yeah. I don't know nothing about the Lamar one. It's his knee, 

[00:25:30] Cole Ingle: but like Right. His knee. Yeah. I mean, nobody knows that's a problem and that's 

[00:25:33] Stoy Hall: the problem. So if, let's just say, let's just wipe him out for the right to the playoffs or season, I don't care.

[00:25:39] It's the Huntley injury that's the problem. Yeah. 

[00:25:40] Cole Ingle: Cuz if he doesn't play, they're really 

[00:25:42] Stoy Hall: done. If he doesn't play this week against the Browns, they loose to the 

[00:25:44] Cole Ingle: Browns. I mean, do they though the Browns. 

[00:25:47] Stoy Hall: No. Well, you're not wrong, . I mean, but it's at the Browns, it'll be a low scoring game. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Some sloppy something and weather related.

[00:25:55] Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . I, uh, Christmas Eve, um, against the Falcons. I don't, I just don't know. Right. We don't know enough about Ritter yet to even think if the Falcons are competitive right now, if he does like two passes better than Mariota per game, which is 

[00:26:13] Cole Ingle: he be more competi. , that was a bad 

[00:26:16] Stoy Hall: drive. Then we then we're, we're gonna lose, we're gonna lose out.

[00:26:19] Mm-hmm. and we're gonna go get Okay. Williams or Strout or somebody. Right. Fair enough. Um, and if they are, then that game is gonna be closer than Yeah. I mean, the Ravens are gonna grind it out the rest of the year. Ravens are making the playoffs though. Oh yeah. They're making the playoffs, but they're gonna, they have to grind these last 

[00:26:35] Cole Ingle: four out.

[00:26:35] I don't, I don't think the Ravens win a playoff game. 

[00:26:38] Stoy Hall: I don't, I don't think the endless Lamar is healthy 

[00:26:41] Cole Ingle: and. playoffs is about closing. And that's, that team has been fraudulent in the closing department. Correct. But 

[00:26:50] Stoy Hall: there's something about the Ravens and the playoffs in Harbaugh and they've got a kicker who won't miss kicks, so Yeah.

[00:26:55] Nope, that's true. They will be 

[00:26:56] Cole Ingle: in it. They have have the old ultimate closer and they suck at closing. Explain 

[00:26:59] Stoy Hall: that to me. I know, man. I'm just saying like, if you have to grind these next four games out like that, in Lamar's not healthy. Mm-hmm. , I think it just takes a toll. Yeah. At the, at the end of that.

[00:27:10] That's fair. I don't think the Browns can throw at 'em. The Falcons, we don't know. The Steelers will throw and the Bengals will throw. Oh right. 

[00:27:17] Cole Ingle: But I mean, the Steelers can throw but not good enough to win. So, but that game will be less corny as well. But Ravens will be in. Alright. Uh, let's get to AFC East.

[00:27:28] Um, probably the most interesting overall division you've got the division leading. , uh, 

[00:27:36] Stoy Hall: fraudulent in your eyes cuz you hadn't met 15 

[00:27:38] Cole Ingle: wins. Hey, uh, you've got the, the hell outta here, but are, I mean, eight and five fraudulent though, in, in any 

[00:27:46] Stoy Hall: way? I think they're weaker than I thought. They're weak but not 

[00:27:48] Cole Ingle: fraudulent.

[00:27:49] Not fraudulent. That's, that's their defense got hurt. That, that hurt them a lot. Um, Josh Allen just hasn't taken care of the. . No. Which he needs to do, but he's getting healthy. He needs to secure it. His elbow's getting healthy. So that's, so they need to get better. That's scary. Um, we both think they're gonna win that division.

[00:28:04] Yep. The 

[00:28:05] Stoy Hall: dolphins. So let's just jump to the team that I don't think are frauds, but are still outperforming. And that's the Jets. They're not frauds to me. Cause I didn't have 'em do anything. They're sitting exactly where I 

[00:28:18] Cole Ingle: thought they would. But if Mike White can't play, they're, they. 

[00:28:22] Stoy Hall: Oh, they're out. I don't think they're getting the playoffs.

[00:28:24] I'm just saying like Flaco 

[00:28:25] Cole Ingle: has, but if Mike White plays, they're not out. 

[00:28:27] Stoy Hall: No, I like him with Mike White. Yeah. He just has like, so not 

[00:28:31] Cole Ingle: frauds. We agree that the, they're fraud. They're not, not frauds fraud. No. Um, 

[00:28:34] Stoy Hall: I, I, and I'm rooting for 'em. Right. And they were, the Patriots are the, the thing 

[00:28:39] Cole Ingle: is like more fraudulent.

[00:28:40] The Jets are the Patriots. The Patriots, yeah. The Patriot. Team's trending somewhat opposite directions. The jets were hot at the end of the, OR at the beginning of the year. So it was like, did you, do you believe in what the Jets are doing? And ultimately the answer was yes. But then you have the Zack Wilson issue.

[00:28:59] But then they were fine when Mike White came in. Now Mike White's, so like it's more of a, if Mike White has been the guy all year, they might even be in a little bit better position. Position how he's hurt. Offensive line. The 

[00:29:11] Stoy Hall: Patriots are issue because they, I don't know what to 

[00:29:14] Cole Ingle: do with her. Their offense is fraudulent.

[00:29:15] I don't know what to do with them. Yeah, they. , but do you wanna play the Patriots in the playoffs? No. You never want to play the Patriots? Are the Patriots gonna make 

[00:29:22] Stoy Hall: the playoffs? I don't have 'em making the playoffs. I haven't beginning of the year and I still don't. Um,

[00:29:30] I still don't. Okay. But it's not very, it's not as 

[00:29:34] Cole Ingle: high as, we'll take a look at that later. Two on cheeses and stuff. But the dolphins, dolphins, . Yep. That's the team. That's, that's the the question. Big fraud or not? So Minnesota is the big fraud, or not the nfc, AFC to me's Dolphins. It's the dolphins fraud, not, oh 

[00:29:52] Stoy Hall: man.

[00:29:53] They are all over the damn place. Now, the only reason we're talking about is cuz they've two was played what, 

[00:29:59] Cole Ingle: worst two games 

[00:30:00] Stoy Hall: last two games, absolutely. Mm-hmm. . And that's the reason they're, they're in this situation now. They do have a one, you know, they're eight and. Sitting, sitting fairly pretty for, you know, a wild card spot.

[00:30:10] So 

[00:30:10] Cole Ingle: do they apply in the next four? They have needing basically two wins to get in the playoffs. 

[00:30:16] Stoy Hall: Bills on Saturday. Who like that one? It was just a fun one to watch on Saturday. Yeah. Uh, Packers. Mm-hmm. Patriots. Jets 

[00:30:27] Cole Ingle: Gotta go two and two. Gotta find a way to go. Two and two. They go two and two. The right. I just love what I love about like, just what we've heard as far as teams playing.

[00:30:36] The vision games at the end of the year that matter, one NFL sets it, sets it up that way and they've done a really good job this year. Obviously it comes to light more when you have teams that are more competitive for to be nice. Hey, the FC South's competitive against each other. Correct. Hey, and now ultimately that's what's gonna matter cuz that's what's gonna bring the entertainment is like, doesn't matter how shitty we.

[00:31:00] We're playing for something at the end of the year, right? Um, and most of these teams, whether it be seating or a playoff bid with seven on each side now are going to be playing for something at the end of the year, even though we've added games Correct. Uh, to the postseason. And ultimately that's what the NFL wants, right?

[00:31:17] Um, and that's what we as fans hope for, okay? Even when we're not rooting for our teams, we're rooting for a game where the best guys in the world are trying to rip each other's heads. To get to a playoffs, because in the playoffs, as we know, we've seen teams all the time. Everybody just wants a chance.

[00:31:36] Just give, I just want just gimme a chance to get in. And then we're all professionals, right? Like injuries are gonna happen during games, whatever. Gimme a chance. Right. Um, and we've seen those teams, uh, you know, the Seahawks, several years ago you had the Marshon run. Yeah. Against the Saints, um, , the, both the New York giant teams that have made runs,

[00:31:59] Sun, it's gonna make me physically ill. Couldn't even hardly say it without passing out. Um, but yeah, yeah, you gotta give teams a chance. As much as we want to sit here and say how these teams have no chance, unfortunately we've been proven wrong. Like the past has proved us wrong. So, um, but that's where we're at.

[00:32:14] So do you have the Patriots getting in? I didn't, I don't think that the 

[00:32:18] Stoy Hall: Patriots, they finished at Raiders, Bengals, dolphins, bills? 

[00:32:23] Cole Ingle: No. So they won't get in. But the bigger thing with that is the dolphin. to me have gone from a team that got no respect, um, into a, didn't get respect, and then he got too much respect.

[00:32:41] Mm-hmm. too fast and now they're, some, everything's somewhere in between. Yeah. Um, do I think that they stay competitive? Yes. Are they fraudulent? Yes. As a front runner. Okay. I, I agree. Because that when they got to eight and three, they got moved into the tier with the Cowboys, the bills, they were up there.

[00:33:09] They're not in that tier, they're in the Vikings tier. They're the vi, which is one tier below. You can win a playoff game. You're winning one playoff game. You can't win multiple. Correct. Um, so I will call that fraudulent. That's fair. From what the expectation was, two weeks. Um, it's very valid to what they probably think as a team, which I hope that they, you know, have confidence in themselves.

[00:33:31] I just, I don't think they can hold up overall. Nope. Agree. And last division, uh, AFC West. You've got the Chiefs 

[00:33:38] Stoy Hall: and everyone else. 

[00:33:40] Cole Ingle: Yeah. Everybody else is a fraud. They're 

[00:33:43] Stoy Hall: all fraudulent. Well, based 

[00:33:44] Cole Ingle: upon, here's the thing. What, what's the 

[00:33:46] Stoy Hall: Charger's record right now? Seven, six. They play. Uh, Titans, Colts Rams, bro.

[00:33:55] They can go three and one and get to 10. They're, they're in the playoffs easily. And debatably, they can go four and oh, cuz they have the titans. So here's 

[00:34:03] Cole Ingle: my thing with the chargers, is they can backdoor this 

[00:34:06] Stoy Hall: thing fraudulent. They don't ever backdoor anything. 

[00:34:08] Cole Ingle: They're not fraudulent because we expect them to suck.

[00:34:11] No, that's, we 

[00:34:11] ex 

[00:34:12] Stoy Hall: they're fraudulent for this whole division's 

[00:34:14] Cole Ingle: fraudulent. The whole division is fraudulent. Correct. Including the chiefs in some 

[00:34:17] Stoy Hall: ways, including the chiefs, um, from the beginning, you know, from the start of the year situation. 

[00:34:22] Cole Ingle: Um, but you have the Raiders who have done all of the things we showed today.

[00:34:26] God, and then you have the Broncos saying, no, hold both my beers. Yeah. And they've done their whole thing, all of the beers. And then you have the chargers who have done Chargers things, but somehow have gotten to seven and six because the Chargers are the Chargers. . And then you have the chiefs who have overperformed yet underwhelmed.

[00:34:42] Correct. Um, in some of the games where you'd expect them to overperform. Um, so the chiefs are the chiefs. They're come playoff time. They flip a switch. 

[00:34:51] Stoy Hall: Really? The chiefs and the chief. The chiefs and the chargers are the chiefs and the chargers. Right. They're doing what they 

[00:34:55] Cole Ingle: do, but the chargers are seven and six and most years, the Chargers doing the same thing.

[00:35:00] Would be like five and seven, correct. Five. . So they have a legit flipp the script a little bit. They 

[00:35:05] Stoy Hall: have a legit shot of getting 10 wins. And if they get 10 wins they're in, can they 

[00:35:10] Cole Ingle: beat the, all they have to do can they beat the Ja Jaguars 

[00:35:14] Stoy Hall: Chargers? Titans. Colts. Rams. 

[00:35:17] Cole Ingle: Broncos can, can they beat the Jaguars or the Titans in the playoffs?

[00:35:22] Well, if they beat, the Titans won. Absolutely 100% they can. Yeah, absolutely. So I mean, those are the matchups we're gonna be looking at as we so. No, they're, they're not fraudulent and they're gonna get healthier on defense. Sure are. And their office three, four defensive defensive players getting 

[00:35:40] Stoy Hall: back to, I think 

[00:35:42] Cole Ingle: two of their best three receivers have been got back.

[00:35:46] That's a scary thought to not call them fraudulent. It's a scary 

[00:35:49] Stoy Hall: team. I'm saying they can be a scary 

[00:35:52] Cole Ingle: team. I wouldn't have thought two weeks ago I would not have said that the dolphins are fraudulent and the chargers are not. But here we are. Yeah. Here we. 

[00:36:01] Stoy Hall: Here we are. All 

[00:36:02] Cole Ingle: right. Week 15, fraud or not players?

[00:36:04] Uh, this list is a lot smaller, . Um, but let's start right here. Yeah. Herbert. Fraud or 

[00:36:12] Stoy Hall: not? He is what he is. 

[00:36:16] Cole Ingle: Stat stuffer or not? Oh, yeah. Stat stuffer. Stat. But not a fraud. Not a fraud. All right. That's fair. I, I can go that 

[00:36:23] Stoy Hall: I can't give a a, a top 15 quarterback for fraud button. Right. Um, my case is still out for Tua.

[00:36:32] Uh, he got hot. Everyone loved him. Yeah, but he's never been good. 

[00:36:36] Cole Ingle: But his downside is his downside. He can't do what he can't. Yeah, I mean, I'll bring up Purdy. You know, it's, we're, we're a game and a half in, and it's not a fraud or not thing, it's a can. My coach put me in a best position to win, which the Dolphins have done a lot of with Tua and he has the weapons.

[00:36:56] Yeah. Same thing with Purdy. He has the weapons, so those guys are fraudulent when they're made to do things. . Correct. Not capable of doing. Now, Tua has just straight up missed throws the last two weeks. Yes. And look, and there's nothing that's, that's not fraudulent about that right Now you can call whatever it is, whether it's some type of injury.

[00:37:14] We're not aware. We're talking about 

[00:37:15] Stoy Hall: whatever camp throw Yeah. Balls that we're looking at. So 

[00:37:18] Cole Ingle: at this point, I have to go fraud for. and Herbert. Stat stuffer. Stat stuffer, but also a stud. I mean, he's a stat stuffer. The dude can make the throws. And I have said he's a social media darling. Yeah. And all of those things.

[00:37:35] And I don't, there's a lot of things where the stat stuffing has come in and buddy, hey, he plays for the chargers. So there's a lot to overcome there. So I'll, uh, I'll walk it back a little bit, but going with two is fraudulent. Two is a fraud non playoff winning. . Um, okay. Cousins we talked about. Yeah. Not a fraud.

[00:38:00] He's not fraud. Guy shows up. He's showed up. Um, and I think he's showed us that he can win primetime a little bit this year. Yeah. 

[00:38:06] Stoy Hall: A little let's little bit. 

[00:38:08] Cole Ingle: I mean that's a little bit, we talked about their defense being the more of the issue there. I mean that would be so, um, more what's causing more of that bald, not this year.

[00:38:16] Uh, Rogers, he might as well. Him and Brady. Yeah. We'll put 'em both in the. 

[00:38:22] Stoy Hall: Take 

[00:38:22] Cole Ingle: them out too. Passive. You can't call them frauds. Too good of football players, too good of careers to call 'em frauds. You can't call Hall of Famers frauds. But going into this year, you gotta, they're terrible lamb and sheep's clothing from both of them is what you got 

[00:38:36] Stoy Hall: these two need to 

[00:38:38] Cole Ingle: retire.

[00:38:38] Yeah. I mean, their teams are not good, but they are also not helping their teams win like they normally do. I 

[00:38:44] Stoy Hall: don't think the, I don't think the bucks on from a roster standpoint are bad. They've, they've, their defense is solid. Mm-hmm. , they've got skills set across the border on offense. Now their o line is bad, but like injured.

[00:38:58] That's, I mean, they're depleted. Yeah. They're just injured to hell. He's had worse on offense. Yeah. So that's on Brady to me. And he's not looked good. No, I'm not at all. He also looks 30 

[00:39:08] Cole Ingle: pounds lighter. Let's throw, so we've got Brady. Rogers Russell. Oh, they all should 

[00:39:14] Stoy Hall: retire. Done. Okay, game over. Just retire.

[00:39:16] I'm done with them. 

[00:39:17] Cole Ingle: Right. They've all been too good in their careers to be called frauds. Yes. They've, they've done too much for the game. They've done too much for their teams. They want, that's why 

[00:39:25] Stoy Hall: I can't call 'em frauds, chicken chips, but because they gotta retire. They're done. They're done. They're 

[00:39:29] Cole Ingle: done.

[00:39:31] Done. So these are just fried eggs? These are, yeah. Just. . Yep. Let '

[00:39:37] Stoy Hall: em out to pasture. And the only thing, I mean, it, the bucks are fine from a 

[00:39:40] cause, 

[00:39:41] Cole Ingle: plenty of studs coming in. Let's let the, let's let the old guard out 

[00:39:45] Stoy Hall: to pasture. And the, the, the good thing for the bucks is contractually they're set up better.

[00:39:49] Um, they have an old offense, but like from a team standpoint, they're set up better because the Broncos have that contract. Mm-hmm. and no picks. Right. And the Packers have that contract. Yeah. Uh, there's a report that came out that love 

[00:40:02] Cole Ingle: said I, I'd hate to forget Matt Ryan also needs to go with him. Oh, he's already retired.

[00:40:06] That's just, he, he needed a retire before he already retired in 

[00:40:09] Stoy Hall: my brain. Like it's already Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's gotta set him out to passionate, but I think everyone agrees with that. Yep. Right. Um, which is sad because the cults you would, the going into it on paper set up so well that offense line is atrocious.

[00:40:23] Mm-hmm. . Um, but back to it, uh, reports that says, Um, Rogers comes back that love is requesting Yeah. 

[00:40:33] Cole Ingle: Trade out. Which, so a hundred percent he should at this point. Absolutely. It's gone too far. Yeah. And he played and played well when he got in. And then I also don't know why they didn't keep playing him.

[00:40:42] Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. Um, but yeah. Last couple here, uh, Gino Smith. Oh boy. And this is going to be, to me, one of the more legitimate ones is we've seen Gino in a backup role. Now we've seen g. Start and lead a team that didn't have very high ceiling from a fraudulent, uh, perspective. It's not so much this year in my mind, but do you see Gino, is he a fraud from being a career starter?

[00:41:16] Can he give you five more good years in Seattle? Ooh, that's a, that's a deep question. Non-injury pending. What's up? 

[00:41:24] Stoy Hall: That's a. . Ooh, that's, I think Seattle's gonna have, I think he turned a corner this year the way he's been throwing it in his accuracy. Mm-hmm. . Um, now it's obviously a couple last couple games, but Right.

[00:41:37] It's on it truthfully. It's his Seahawks run defense that has been the issue. Mm-hmm. , um, which makes him throw more, and he's not a 35 plus guy and they're on their 

[00:41:46] Cole Ingle: fifth string running back. Yeah. 

[00:41:47] Stoy Hall: Right now they legitimately their fifth string. 

[00:41:49] Cole Ingle: Mm-hmm. like they brought a guy off the practice. and signed a guy who was never even on the team this week because they're top four guys.

[00:41:58] Two of all two are completely done for the season, and the other two are multiple week injuries. Correct. 

[00:42:04] Stoy Hall: So like you got that right. Um, but no, I think he took a step up, in my opinion for with his accuracy and his ability to game manage. Mm-hmm. , um, you can't ask him to throw 35 plus. Right. He's a 20 to 30.

[00:42:18] And if they can do that, they can win. And he easily can play five 

[00:42:21] Cole Ingle: more years. They're gonna have a top five draft pick this year. Are you drafting a quarterback knowing that Gino is your franchise quarterback? Who's their backup? 

[00:42:30] Stoy Hall: I don't. Isn't it? Uh, the old Broncos guy? Oh yeah. What's his name? He so bad.

[00:42:36] I don't remember his name. 

[00:42:37] Cole Ingle: Oh, I can see it. Plane. His name? Lock. Lock Drew. Lock. Drew Lock. So you have a backup. Has had minimal success in the nfl, uh, but is enough of an athlete and yeah, 

[00:42:47] Stoy Hall: I do, I draft 

[00:42:49] Cole Ingle: a quarterback if I'm them. So you, so in my opinion, you saying that means that you think Geno Smith is a frog?

[00:42:55] I 

[00:42:55] Stoy Hall: don't, no, because I'm under the opinion that quarterback should also sit for a couple years. Let 'em sit 

[00:43:01] Cole Ingle: behind Gino 22. Geno's. Not that old. I don't care. Gino's got five to seven years left. That's fine. You want a Jordan Love? , you're, I'm not talking about the 20th pick in the first round. I'm talking about a, you have a top five pick in the NFL draft.

[00:43:15] If we have two, you have a Fran. I mean they might, but I'm talking about with that Broncos pick that they're gonna get because the Broncos are gonna finish bottom three to five in the league. You have Geno Smith as your quarterback right now who has proven to be one of the most efficient quarterbacks in the NFL this year.

[00:43:32] Are you taking an impact defensive line? Uh, a guy from Alabama, guy from Georgia that's gonna come in right now and make a difference. I don't know if they need No. A lineman. I don't like, whatever. They're, they, they need to, they need something on defense. They need something on defense to stop the run, whether that be a linebacker or a middle stuffer.

[00:43:52] I, I mean, 

[00:43:53] Stoy Hall: you're still, I I don't know where they're, hold on. Any of the quarterbacks. I don't know what the other draft picks are personally. Right. But it, I mean, why not do, if they have two or even a high second round, . Yeah. Easily go defense and then go get your quarterback. Quarterback's gonna be there, right?

[00:44:09] But I 

[00:44:09] Cole Ingle: don't if they, if they only had one pick in the whole draft and it was the number three pick in the draft, let's, let's call it that. It's not gonna be number one. Are you 

[00:44:18] Stoy Hall: drafting a quarterback? Well, I'm trading down to like 10, getting into defense and back into then get back in personally. But, uh, uh, 

[00:44:25] Cole Ingle: gm, gm, soy hall,

[00:44:28] That's what I, you guys get. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 

[00:44:33] Stoy Hall: That's how you do it. Thank you. Broncos. Yeah. Right. Uh, 

[00:44:37] Cole Ingle: I believe, I believe in Gino. I mean, yeah. I think he has all of the tools to be. , long term starting quarterback in the nfl. Yeah, I agree. Um, I agree. And in my mind in this, this NFL is a three to five year window of which he can be an above average quarterback and win games for his team if 

[00:45:00] Stoy Hall: necessary.

[00:45:01] Yeah. And I don't think there's a talent from a quarterback standpoint coming out that is a can't miss. Yeah, I think there's multi. of them, and that's probably the issue, right? They could easily, uh, trade down a little bit, get with any defense and go pick up. Yeah. So that's where I'm at with it. So, um, 

[00:45:19] Cole Ingle: No, I, so I'm, I'm all in.

[00:45:20] He's not fraudulent. I'm all in on G. All right. I liked some gio, which I would not have said no, but even in the beginning of this year, uh, he's just, he's just played, shown a lot of different things, uh, been able to do and lead a team. So who else you got? Any other? Um, I don't have, I, that was, he was my last one.

[00:45:36] Um, he was the most, I saved him for less because he was the one that, uh, I had the most questions about as far as Seattle having a lot of flexibility. Will Seattle buy in or are they bought into him or not? And I was just curious, uh, where your head was at there. And I love how you played GM on that. That was, that was a great job.

[00:45:58] That's, 

[00:45:59] Stoy Hall: uh, if they don't do that right, I think I need to be behind. Well then 

[00:46:03] Cole Ingle: it's time.