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Well done. It's time. Uh, shall we get into our, let's do
Stoy Hall:our picks. Week 15 picks, because it's gonna determine what we do for
Cole Ingle:the playoff playoffs. Um, I'll jump in here while you're loading the playoff machine up here. Thursday night Football. This. We are the Segway masters because we've got the 49ers at the Seahawks. Look at what we do there. Oh, we're getting good at this thing. Ew. Um, big Cock Brock, big cock rock and franchise cornerback. Let's check the weather. Gino Smith, uh, three and a half point favorites are the 49ers on the road with 41 degrees, a rookie quarterback. At the helm. More points than I will say that the rookie quarterback on the road this late in the season at eight Seattle Active Seattle team. I'm gonna say that's never happened before.
Stoy Hall:It's gonna be, it's gonna be a, it's gonna be den we,
Cole Ingle:what are we seeing for weather? 41 degrees. 41. A little breezy and no rain though in. No, today in Iowa. Felt like Seattle. Wow. Just raining all day long. Tell, and just Drey. Just Drey. Like
Stoy Hall:it's yeah. Awful. Um, this gonna be a good game. 43 and a half, honestly. Might be one of the better. Thursday night football games. And I'm,
Cole Ingle:that's such wishful. Thank you for I can't
Stoy Hall:Thursday night. Thursday. Can I try to hype it up? I I just can't. Um, 43 and a half though. uh, I, I see. I still see it going under. I don't, the Niners are not gonna go blow them out by 35. Like, it's just not gonna happen. Mm-hmm. um, they're gonna run the ball cause they're gonna be able to because the seas can't stop. Shit. Mm-hmm. Um, and it's just gonna come down to I, the, the Niners defense, one of the top five in the league. So I just don't see that happening. Yeah. I mean, basically, yeah, the Niners Niners should pull this one off the way the Seahawks been playing. Mm-hmm. um, can the Seahawks cover? I don't see either team winning by more than
Cole Ingle:three. I mean, Purdy's gonna be, should be comfortable playing in this weather. They're gonna play in Iowa. This is gonna be a very Iowa winter fall type of game. Fuck the shit outta the ball. They're not going to be forced to make Purdy do anything more than he is already had to do because they're going to want to run the football now. Seattle. Gosh, I would hope that they would be trying to force purdy into uncomfortable situations. I'm just not sure that they can, um, especially deebo out and if they,
Stoy Hall:if they, if they go, if they go one free or any of that crazy shit, Purdy's proved that he
Cole Ingle:can, he does throw it right. And he got comfortable with Kittle. Who can win one-on-one? I can win one-on-one. They both won one on one last week. We, we know McCann and Purdy seem to recognize. Didn't have problems with people in his face. Two, three different touchdown throws. So as long as he's healthy. Yeah. I don't, I just don't see it for Seattle. And it's less to do with Seattle. More to do with what the 49ers, the way that they're trending and what their defense have been able to do on top of how their offense has been able to execute. Um, now three and a half is that, that little number can't do it.
Stoy Hall:I can't do it in Seattle. Someone's winning this ball game 20 s. You've got. Yep. I gotta take some San Francisco, Seattle on the spread. And you're going and
Cole Ingle:I am going to uh, take, I just talked Gino up. But if Seattle can't run the ball with seven guys in the box for the 49ers, they're not gonna be able to throw the ball effect. they'll be able to throw it, but not to score. And therefore low scoring game. Oh, yeah. Clock control game for the 49ers. The Seahawks are more, more so going to be forced to throw just because they can't run. And I just don't think the 49ers are gonna have to bring extra people in to stop the run. That's fair. Um, I just have, and that's the biggest thing for me. So I think that, uh, 49ers win this game. Uh, you know, let's call it. 2313. Uh, somewhere right in there,
Stoy Hall:there'll be, there'll be some field goals. So there'll be some
Cole Ingle:field goals in this one. So I have, uh, the 49ers, uh, in covering the three and a half. We're both on the under of 43 and a half. You have Seattle, uh, getting the three and a half points and San Francisco winning. Next up, I'll let you lead in with your Falcons.
Stoy Hall:I'm hyped about this game to see a rookie who I know can throw better than Marietta. Go play in New Orleans in a, a game that matters. It's exciting on
Cole Ingle:the road though. I know.
Stoy Hall:That's why I'm excited. Yeah. I'm not scared of it. I'm excited because I don't really give a shit if they make the playoffs or not. I'd have him making it or had'em made it, but only because I don't like the Saints. Um, and they have, but if
Cole Ingle:he can go in there, but if he can go in there, the stage up, I mean, it's gonna be rowdy and
Stoy Hall:Oh yeah. Yep. If he can go in and do this thing. Yeah, man, the hype behind him is gonna be great. Um, regardless of this year, that, that's really good stuff. I believe he can. Um, four point underdogs. Four. That's a lot of points in this matchup. I don't, yeah, I don't quite, I think it's because of the uncertainty of Ritter. Oh, a hundred percent. Um, but the way he played in the preseason, and, you know, last, I know I saw Purdy in the preseason. He turned out all right. Yeah. Sitting so long, getting to know the system. Yeah. Uh, getting comfortable and just being a professional this late in the season. You know, we're I, I, hopefully we can see something special. Yeah. He's got the weapon, so it's not like Right. That's an issue. Um, it's
Cole Ingle:just, I really wish PITS was healthy. I do too. Uh, ju I mean, I think is that honestly in a game like this is, could be a big factor Yeah. Of just having one more weapon, middle of the. Comfort level type throws.
Stoy Hall:I agree. Um, but we're still run first. Right. And that's gonna be the issue. Um, so it's just if there's gonna be deep shots and he has to connect, if he doesn't connect, they're not gonna win. Right. He has to connect on those shots. Yeah. Um,
Cole Ingle:so 42 and a half is the total. Whew.
Stoy Hall:That one's interesting. Uh, how do you
Cole Ingle:feel Falcon's find a way to pull this?
Stoy Hall:Yeah. And it's, man, we always end up doing like a 24 21 game. So I, I gotta go over, over. Yeah.
Cole Ingle:Um, well,
Stoy Hall:yeah, I can't pick the saints. Like I, I like physically could never pick the s it's just not a. going completely opposite.
Cole Ingle:I mean, I write it down again, go, go big or go home on this game. Proof proof's always on the paper for me. Um, ye so, uh, Stoy is, you know, taking his falcons against the Saints again, uh, that's always gonna say a TL in both of those boxes, regardless of how big the number is for life. Um, he's got Atlanta. Atlanta, he's taking the over 42 and a half. I don't mind that. Um, I'm going to. uh, I'm gonna take the Saints on both sides of this. Um, I think the Saints defense can cause some problems. This being a home game for the Saints, their fans, uh, won, are rowdy, but are going to be knowledgeable to the fact that hey, if the Saints went out, they still have a chance, um, which in the NFC South, um, you know, every week matters because of that. Two of those weeks they get a play division opponents and they've got a chance in the other two. They're coming ready this week as fans. They know that quarterback is a rookie. That defense knows that quarterback is a rookie. Um, cam Jordan, the defensive coordinator, the head coach, all coming off fines, a little NFL spite. Um, I'm, I'm bringing the whole kitchen sink like it for this cover of four
Stoy Hall:points. That's a lot, that's a lot to throw out for
Cole Ingle:the saints on this side. I just don't know if the Falcons. I would say 13 at most, um, this week, maybe a couple field goals, maybe a late touchdown. Somehow, uh, I don't see the Saints doing anything crazy, but I think they get to 17, 21, 24. Um, so I see that as a, a close cover, um, in a game that this stays under. and weather should not be a factor. Zero factor. If it is, we've got a leak in the roof. Let's Uh, next up cowboys.
Stoy Hall:Hey, the boys. The boys are back in
Cole Ingle:town. So what a, what a difference a week's week. Makes. Uh, last week we've got the Texans at home, 17 point favorites. Uh, this week, that number's down to four and a half at the Jacks. Um, still playing a despicable AFC South team, uh, in the Jaguars. B by record, not by trending play. Um, all intents and purposes, Dallas should win this game, handle this game. The Jaguars, however, have been playing well. Trevor Lawrence has been playing well. Um, I, however, have to trust that Dallas's defense can give Lawrence problems. Um, which teams have, um, and that their offense can be consistent on the road for four quarters. And I'm seeing this as a game where hoping Dallas pulls their head outta their ass from escaping. Mm-hmm. the Texans, which you need those games. I wasn't, I really wasn't upset. Even if had, had they lost the game last week, it's a wake up call. Should, should have lost. Hopefully they understand what Jacksonville's been able to. Um, Jacksonville definitely has weapons, both sides of the ball. Um, so they have the ability to make this a game. I fully anticipate for, I mean, most of the year, Dallas has been a fourth quarter seal the game type of team. Um, don't see how this would be any different. I expect this to be a battle. I expect somebody on Dallas's defense to make a play, um, whether it be late in the third, early in the fourth quarter, kind of break the game open. Hopefully Dallas is able to run the ball. Contin, uh, continue that trend as far as running the game out. Meaning we can hand off to three different running backs and score touchdowns, um, without having to throw the ball on third down or do anything crazy where we're, we're having to do that. We'll be interested to see how t y Hilton fits in if he does it all this week. Uh, maybe one more week for him, but, uh, would definitely like to see how he fits into the fold and what our plan is for him. So, uh, I am taking the Cowboys, uh, the cowboys to cover the four and a half and. I think there's gonna be some points in this game. 47 is a high number, went back and forth on that. But I'm gonna take the over in that game, uh, with a 32 20$3 victory.
Stoy Hall:Um, I'd prefer if you put those in your own column, not my column. Oh, you don't like that? Um, like that, you like that so much. Cousins and Vikings talk. It's like if we had a, you know, an actual, it's almost like
Cole Ingle:I'm wearing a gold chain right now. Like what? Um,
Stoy Hall:wait, wait. Uh, no, I do agree. Um, I, Jaguars just aren't the better team. Uh, Dan Quinn will get that defense to wrap back around. That was, I don't know what that was, so I'll go Dallas. Dallas, but I'm going under. Okay. Um, I just don't think that Jags will be able to score. All right. Um, and this go round, I know they play well at. Lawrence is hot. Yeah. So Cowboys play better on the road. Hey.
Cole Ingle:Hi. Here we go. That's why I think there's gonna be
Stoy Hall:some offense. Um, I just, I just think it'll be a little, little different. Fair enough. Little Sunday night football
Cole Ingle:action. Oh, yeah. As we, uh alluded to earlier, we've got the, uh, New York football giants at the Washington Commanders, uh, fresh off, back to back ties, uh, tie a couple weeks ago. Can we do it again? Uh, can they do it again? Can they do it? Commanders are four and a half point favorites, which seems like a large number to me. Yes. Um, big thing that I saw earlier this week on, I believe it was the Twitter machine, was how amazingly well Daniel Jones has played in Washington. Um, I did not know that. Yeah. Uh, some just kind of crazy stats are against the crazy stutz are against a kind of a, well, first of all, a division opponent. Second of all, like a defense that's been fairly decent from time to time. So, um, 40 and a half is the number there, and four and a half is the spread for Washington. Um, I do think the commanders win this game. I agree. Uh, four and a half points though.
Stoy Hall:How, how do you feel about thats, that weather's not a factor, by the way. Yeah, the four and a half is because the giants just got absolutely obliterated. That's the problem.
Cole Ingle:Right. But I mean, weather. A it did, it factor, and that gave me, it was rainy, didn't, didn't touch the eagles at all. Right. But like the Eagles had special teams. Mishaps. Yeah. Giants had special teams, ma I mean, which, um,
Stoy Hall:I'm, I'm more apt to tell you that it's gonna go over than I am to tell you what the spread's gonna be. Um,
Cole Ingle:40 and a half. Yeah, 40 and a halfs too low. And I, we both agree on that. It's just too low that these ts mean they tied 20 to 20 in what was a terrible game. If weather's not gonna be a factor, it's not. Um, this game's gonna be little chilly thirties, but this game's gonna be 24, 21, 27, 24. Uh, something agree like that. Um, but I, I can't give more than a fuel goal for the commanders. That's, that's the thing. Can't, in a division game, I cannot, I cannot do it. Um, so we both have the giants covering the fuel. I would've preferred
Stoy Hall:this to be at like two and a half.
Cole Ingle:I can't believe it's four and a half after them tying. It
Stoy Hall:is Tuesday. It is. So this might change, but I,
Cole Ingle:people are gonna like the commanders. I mean, we like the commanders two weeks ago when they played out the Giants. I agree. But it was a surprise tie that. We really was, and the commanders really did everything in their power to tie that game. But here we are. Here we are. So we are both on the commanders. We are both on the Giants to cover the four and a half, and both on the over of 40 and a half leading us to the garbage canned game of the week.
Stoy Hall:Is this game better or worse? Christmas Day
Cole Ingle:slightly better because one team has a chance to make the playoff. Oh my Lord. Um, the what team Baker, uh, the Packers, if they went out, uh, the Baker Mayfield led Let's be real Rams, um, baker with, uh, four full days of practice now under his belt. Uh, we'll go into of all places Lambo. which isn't too far from Cleveland, so I, you can't say that he hasn't played in weather, and that's, that's gonna be a huge factor, not
Stoy Hall:high that day. Mm-hmm. it's 15,
Cole Ingle:15 is a high, this is the high.
Stoy Hall:Any weather issues. The low, uh, kickoff will be about 12. Yep. Wind, 11
Cole Ingle:miles an hour. Okay. So a little bit there, but noth, I mean nothing, no precipitation. Uh, ultimately, now
Stoy Hall:I don't think this is a, a baker. Uh, weather issue. I think it's, uh, the rest of the Rams team issue.
Cole Ingle:Right. I don't disagree with that. But they're playing the
Stoy Hall:Packers, but they're playing the packers. Seven and a half is a lot of points out. Seven and a half point.
Cole Ingle:Where did you get seven and half on Monday night Football in Green Bay. In a cold weather game? No. Yeah, you don't? No. Thank you. And Aaron Rodgers is going to play with a broken thumb. No
Stoy Hall:thank you. I am not, no. So I'm getting the ramps. Seven and a half is a lot points. It's too many points. No, thank you.
Cole Ingle:So here's my problem is I watched the end of the Rams game where they scored two touchdowns. for 57 minutes, they scored three points against the Raiders defense.
Stoy Hall:Yeah, but the, the, also, the Rams defense only gave up 16 points. No, I, I get it. And really, and they gave up a bunch of FU goals. First drive was a touchdown. Yeah. Three FU goals. Um,
Cole Ingle:they have Devonta Adams, and I have to agree with you here. The seven
Stoy Hall:and a half's too many. There's nothing on the packers. The offense that scares the Rams right whatsoever.
Cole Ingle:And as depleted as the Rams have been, that baker injection of excitement, whatever it may be, come back, those guys are going like they lose that game. 16 to three, nothing changes. Winning 1716, focus level up practice is a little. Energy's different guys that may or may not be playing hurt. Mm-hmm. wanting to play, wanting to get better. All of those things change just enough because of that injection of energy. They, I think this game's competitive. I think this game's ugly.
Stoy Hall:Oh yeah. And to, and honestly,
Cole Ingle:technically, oh, green Bay's gotta win this game. The Rams aren't out
Stoy Hall:of it either. Green Bay's gotta win this game. At home you would think. You would think they. Yeah. I mean, I don't like it. I have to pick it right, but I don't like it. Mm-hmm. Um, 39 and a half is low, but I don't
Cole Ingle:hate it. Yeah. I was, I struggled with this way more than I struggled with the 40 and a half for the Giants Commanders 17,
Stoy Hall:10, 17,
Cole Ingle:13. I mean, one of these teams has to score 20 plus points.
Stoy Hall:For this to get to 40, someone has to score 27 points. In my opinion, I don't
Cole Ingle:see it and I'm taking the, over this game gets to 24 17 packers.
Stoy Hall:I don't see it out. The Ramsey defense, I just don't see that. Oh, that's fair. We're all over the map this week.
Cole Ingle:That's what I'd like to see. Um, just don't finish up here with our best bets.
Stoy Hall:Oh yeah. Hope for some easy ones.
Cole Ingle:See here.
Stoy Hall:Not, not really. Not a lot of good stuff. The fact that the Panthers are favorites over the Steelers, it's just, that's a toss up game. Best. The Broncos over the Cardinals. Oh, Colton. Coy stars.
Cole Ingle:See, the Browns are favorite against the rails. Sure
Stoy Hall:did. I sure did. Um, yeah, I mean, I'm just gonna go, I'm, give me the, the Bengals minus 1 96 over the bucks. I don't, the Bengals are too hot. There's no, there just should be. No, that was the fathomable way. That was the gimme. Yeah. There's just no fathom in my
Cole Ingle:opinion. Um,
Stoy Hall:I just, yeah. Yep, yep, yep. Bronco Cardinals. I know. What a gross game.
Cole Ingle:Oh, that's too funny.
Stoy Hall:Just a gross
Cole Ingle:football game. Um, I think that it's two 15. Um, well, I like the 49ers, but, oh, we've already picked that, so I'll pick a different one. I am going to go with Carolina at home over the now LED tra Mitch Trubisky LED Steelers, um, minus like that minus 1 38. Uh,
Stoy Hall:spread lock. Be mad about that. Spread lock. Spread lock.
Cole Ingle:Um, I'm, I'm going Cincinnati. Minus three and a half against the Bucks. Um, two teams trending wrong direction. I don't care if that game's at Tampa Bay. I'm gonna, huh. The Bengal should just dominate that
Stoy Hall:game. I'm gonna go back to back weeks with things that don't make sense. Gimme the Texans. Plus 14, the Chiefs, they're playing at home. Mm-hmm. played Dallas. Well, chiefs have been iffy. So I like that 14. 14 is a lot of points. There. We go over under, uh,
Cole Ingle:yeah. Something I don't do enough in bedding is take the points. Yeah. Um, it's, I think inherent human nature is to look for the favorites. Which favorite do I like the most? So I go hunt for the points. That's where a lot of the sharps make a lot of
Stoy Hall:their money. Give me the points. Yeah, this one's an actually a relatively easy one for me too. Give me under 48 and a half Colts Vikings. Um, I don't know where the Colts would score. And so the Vikings, and we talked about how bad the Vikings Yeah, but we're talking about the, it's the damn
Cole Ingle:Colts. Well, they've had a couple games this year where they've been decent. I'm just saying we're, we're depending on the Vikings defense to do something here. And we know the Vikings offense can put up. Nope. All right. That's fair. I,
Stoy Hall:I can't trust the Cols. No, I've tried that before. Don't disagree.
Cole Ingle:Uh, let's see here. What do I like? Um, I don't know if I can trust them. I mean, there's no way Mike White is gonna play,
Stoy Hall:man. If he does though. Think game's
Cole Ingle:going over. If he does, but it's mm-hmm. I think Joe Flaco is putting up.
Stoy Hall:No, no, no. Just, no. That's a
Cole Ingle:negative. Negator. Negator, right? More for entertainment factor than anything here. Um, we talked about it, Arizona. Denver under 36 and a half.
Stoy Hall:where's it played at? At
Cole Ingle:Denver. At Denver. Colt McCoy will be leading the Arizona Cardinals against the top two or three scoring defense in the nfl. And Denver will be starting, uh, is it Ripan? Something like that. Um, against Arizona, who and whatever. But,
Stoy Hall:uh, uh,
Cole Ingle:yeah. Mm-hmm. I mean, gimme. Mm-hmm. gimme a 13 to three game here. Um, Arizona, Denver. Nice. Under 36 and a half. Lock it up. Lock it up. All right, DJ and pick of the week.
Stoy Hall:DJ and pick of the week. What is, what just happened?
Cole Ingle:Hmm.
Stoy Hall:How degen do I want to go?
Cole Ingle:Isn't that the question? I'm gonna go a four
Stoy Hall:teamer. Ooh, yep, yep, yep. Okay. Feeling it. Plus 5 62. That is the Niners Lions Bengals Commanders. Boom.
Cole Ingle:Um, help spell us out, so we're gonna go for it. Bears are plus three 15 at home against the Eagles. That'll go well, that's for, that's for Dan Clinton and Joe Galota. There you go.
Stoy Hall:Shout out boys. Shout out boys.
Cole Ingle:bear down. You're such a nice friend. Bear
Stoy Hall:down. I just never understood that. Like why would you want them to go down? Yeah, but it's like bear
Cole Ingle:down is.
Stoy Hall:No, I get it. You're bearing down on someone.
Cole Ingle:But like that's, I get it. Like it's easy to talk down to
as
Stoy Hall:well. Like why would you The bears are down. Yeah, I get it. Like they're not just down. They're down. I know. They're not good. It's bad. Good. Alright.
Cole Ingle:There it is. There it is. I'm gonna recap them. Is that I, no, I'm gonna let you recap'em.
Stoy Hall:All right. I don't really Money line locks. I got sensi. Cole's got Carolina spread lock. I got Houston Plus. Cole went with Cincy at three and a half. Uh, over under, I got Minnesota and Indie under 48 and a half. Cole went with Arizona, Denver under 36 and a half. DJ pick. Uh, I went with a a a four, a little four parlay, nine ERs. Lions Bengals commanders at plus 5 62 and Cole went with Chicago at plus three 15. Are all of yours Degen picks
Cole Ingle:like I feel like. Why do you think I didn't wanna read the recap It's just like, wait a second. No, it's hard. I mean by the numbers. No, no. Right. But if by the team names. Yes. Okay. Um. They're all deed teams. Yeah. Not sensy. Well, not sensy, but Yeah. Three of your four, yeah. Are teams. You don't talk about
Stoy Hall:debatable picks at best. Oh, at
Cole Ingle:best. Everybody likes a good underdog. Yeah, they do. All right. Let's jump into our playoff machine. Yeah.
Stoy Hall:To wrap things up, let's go. Okay. Let's fill in. Let's go to week 15. Here we here. We stand as is. Yeah. We got the one seeds with Philly and the bills. Two seeds are Vikings. Chiefs. Three seeds are Ravens. Niners. Four seeds are those awful Buccaneers in the Titans. Seven seeds are the Giants Patriots. Why did I go back? Whatever. Six Seeds, commanders. Dolphins in the five seed is Cinci in Dallas? Yeah. Okay. So we both have San Francisco winning. Mm-hmm. We both have Dallas winning. Mm. Um, Minnesota. We could have Minnesota winning. We've got Washington winning and Green Bay. And Sensi. And Sensi. And the Chargers. And the Chargers and All right, so we'll just start the top, all Ravens Browns, um,
Cole Ingle:We're going, we need to come back to that game. I don't know enough about that. Game. Bills,
Stoy Hall:dolphins. We have the bills. Yeah. Bills at home should win that. Yep. We're split here. Yeah. So we'll,
Cole Ingle:we'll take your Falcons here. Okay. Because they
Stoy Hall:have the better record. Uh, Panther Steelers. You've got Panthers. Yep. I'll go with it. I can't, I can't argue it. I I'm not going with your DJ pick. I'm sorry. Going Eagles. No, that's fine. Is a bug in here. Oh yeah. I was there.
Cole Ingle:A flight fly guy that's freezing outside. He doesn't wanna be out. He doesn't wanna be out there.
Stoy Hall:Yeah, that's true. Chiefs, chiefs, jets, lions. This one is, this is a Mike White thing for me. Yeah.
Cole Ingle:I'm gonna go with the lions. Yeah. Just because I, even if white's playing, he's definitely not gonna be healthy. I
Stoy Hall:prefer not to pick.
Cole Ingle:Let's go with tie on that one. Yeah, that's
Stoy Hall:fine. Because it doesn't matter. Raiders, patriot.
Cole Ingle:I mean, Patriots have to win that game. All
Stoy Hall:right, we'll give it to'em just cuz they have to.
Cole Ingle:And the Raiders have not won a game that matters ever here. Okay. And you pick Packers on
Stoy Hall:the bottom right there. So this
Cole Ingle:Ravens Browns, I mean, it comes down to if Huntley plays, I'll take the Ravens because the Browns have been that bad. If he doesn't, the Browns are going, I think this game. I agree. So at this point, I think we have to figure that as tough as the NFL has been, huntley's out protocol stuff that for concussion and based on Vegas right now. Yeah. The Browns are favored so they are not, um, we'll just go
Stoy Hall:with that. Um, things changed a little bit. Yeah. Carolina's in. Yeah. Carolina's the only thing that really
Cole Ingle:changes. No. Um, um, the seven seed is not, or the six seven seed becomes. The Dolphin 16th becomes the Chargers. Patriots. Yeah. Even though they won looking on that, even though we had them winning, I was looking on the NFC side. Oh, I can't see the NFC side cuz of this camera. Oh, there we go. Now I can, I was just reading
Stoy Hall:the one I could see. Yeah. Really. So, uh, main change there would be that the Panthers take over the bucks cuz the bucks lost, uh, AFC side. Um, a lot of
Cole Ingle:change. How funny does that look? Geez. Looks like the mid nineties again. It really does.
Stoy Hall:Um, dolphins do get. chargers are in, even with the Patriots win win. Yep. Has anything to do with this tie you think? No. Nope. Nope. So you're leaving that tie? I like that week as a week. 15? Yeah. Week. I don 16. I don't think anything flips. Yeah. I mean this could flip but it doesn't do anything. Yep. Um, week 16. Jets Jags. Well, again, another my white issue. I think he'll be back for that one.
Cole Ingle:I would lean towards Jags at this point and like to see'em this week. If they're competitive this week, I, I would pick them next week. I like the
Stoy Hall:Jets. Um, come back. Yep. Titan's better win that game. Yep. This will be a good game. Yeah, I would, but I'm going. Nine
Cole Ingle:49ers need to win.
Stoy Hall:I, well, I'm gonna, we're gonna pick the ravens. Yeah. I mean, I think, but
Cole Ingle:this is a huntley's back in two weeks no matter what. Correct. Uh, I think they find no way to win that game. It
Stoy Hall:just depends on, you know, it depends on if Richard's good or not. Yeah. Like, that's what, that's true. That's what makes that debatable. Um, lions, Panthers, lions. Panthers. I actually like the lions. Yep. I would pick the
Cole Ingle:lions in the game as well. Um,
Stoy Hall:Cowboys.
Cole Ingle:I mean, I'm jealous would have to prove that to me. I will likely play the spread in that game, but I would also likely if, I mean, I'm just betting, I think the Eagles are, are, would win that game.
Stoy Hall:All right. Um, I'll let you ride with it. Uh, uh, Raiders
Cole Ingle:matter, but I'd pick the Raiders.
Stoy Hall:Raiders, whatever. Bills, bills,
Cole Ingle:saints, Browns at the Browns. I'll take the Browns. I, I, Watson needs to play better by that one.
Stoy Hall:I not argue that. Um, dolphins will be the Packers. Oh God.
Cole Ingle:That's the game they can't flex out of. Now that's Christmas day game. God give me, gimme the Rams. Yeah, gimme the
Stoy Hall:Rams. Um, chief Seahawks. I got the chiefs. Yep. Vikings. Giants. Gimme the Vikings. Yeah. At home. Absolutely. Mm-hmm. Um, I'll go with the bucks, although I'm not a hundred percent sold on that situation. Chargers over the Colts and then the bangal are hot. Yep. All right. No change on the AFC side. Yep. And we've got two changes on the N FFC side. The lines are in seven seed. Yeah. And the bucks are in at the four seat. Yeah.
Cole Ingle:Um, and I mean, if you flip anything, so that's the, the Lions Panthers game is a huge game, uh, in week 16. Yeah, because that will flip takes two, that'll flip the playoffs. So takes the playoffs. Um, that's a potential playoff game. Right. Um, if Week 15 goes as, as projected by Vegas, um, the Lions Panthers game will be essentially a playoff. A an an early playoff game. A two week early playoff game affects four teams. Um, so yeah, big difference there. We'll come back to
Stoy Hall:that. Yeah, that's a big trigger. So we'll come back to that after we finish these. Um, Dallas Titans. Yeah. Give me Dallas. Yeah, absolutely. Uh, Eagles, saints. Yeah. Hey, I'm a, I'm a what? You like that?
Cole Ingle:No, I'm just trying to see. I don't think, the only thing that the Dallas game that I don't, the, that game is going to be irrelevant.
Stoy Hall:I think they place this one though. I don't think they.
Cole Ingle:Yeah, but the last two weeks are gonna be irrelevant that I, we just have to start taking that into consideration now. Absolutely. Is that those first four seeds and then the fifth seed are going to be set on both sides, right? Um, fairly well, not the nfc, not, or afc Not nearly as much. Nevermind NFC side though. Um, it's set, it's gonna be set a lot earlier. It's, yeah, it's, uh, just because of the Eagles being what I think are going to be head and shoulders above the one seed, uh, unfortunately, even if Dallas were to win, um, that game becomes a little, I,
Stoy Hall:I think they play this one. Yep. The next one, I think that's, that we drop. Um, I'm gonna give us the win over the cards. Uh, this will be a big one. and I, I will give it to the Bucks.
Cole Ingle:Well, I mean, if you do, that's what you're giving them. I, I mean, that's a playoff game. Yeah, it is. I mean, I don't, the Panthers are playing playoff games the last three weeks of the season. I just, well, we knew the Panthers had to went out to get some, so,
Stoy Hall:uh, Raven Steelers hunt. Everyone's healthy at this point. We don't know where Lamar's at, but they're a better football team, or no? Yeah. Yeah. Washington over the Browns. Um, the lion have to win this one. Mm-hmm. uh, San Francisco better beat the Raiders. Yep. However, we're trickling in that, that period
Cole Ingle:of time. Yeah. But they're gonna be in the two three, so they're gonna, they're gonna play throughout, they'll be playing for seed,
Stoy Hall:um, jets
Cole Ingle:Seahawks at, in Seattle. So I would lean Seattle. Yeah, me too.
Stoy Hall:This game, I'm getting to the Jags. Yep. Cause Houston's. Uh, Kansas City. Yep. Still playing in the one seeds that they're gonna be playing through. Mm-hmm. Um, this will be not a, this will be a good game, but in picking the Vikings better beat the Packers. Correct. Uh, dolphins, Patriots.
Cole Ingle:Dolphins are the better team this year. I would lean towards the Dolphins. They've had the Patriots numbers.
Stoy Hall:Same thing with, uh, the Battle of la. Yep. Chargers, you gotta go. Chargers. Um, the Giants better take care of business against the cult at home. Mm-hmm. this will be just a fantastic game. Yeah. Um, and I really don't know which way it goes.
Cole Ingle:Uh, bangles, bangles, I'll, I'll lean towards the, the home team at this point. Yeah. Um,
Stoy Hall:that's, this'll be a fun one.
Cole Ingle:It'll night football game that's gonna flop seating as well. Yeah. Flop your two on your three
Stoy Hall:each. All right. So, uh, no change. Well, one
Cole Ingle:change, big change is in the afc. Big change is AFC, though. Uh, you get Kansas City moves up to the one line with the bills losing, um, Bengals and Bills flop. The, yeah. Bills go from the one to the three. Three. And Bengals go three to two.
Stoy Hall:Three to two. Yeah. And we head into the all important week 18. Yeah. Which is, uh, It's gonna be interesting. Mm-hmm. uh, bucks. Falcons. Let's, yeah. I didn't think we got in. It's basically not relevant game, I think.
Cole Ingle:Yeah, it is. That's why the, the two weeks before that, 16, it matters. Yeah. 16 and
Stoy Hall:17. Um, in that regard, I think will win if it doesn't matter to them. Yep. Um, At that point, um, yeah, I'll give the, the Panthers that this, this game is irrelevant to you. I'm gonna end a tie cuz I don't like either team. Um, bills are still playing. Oh, got it. I don't see them losing that game. Nope. Um, Philly's not playing. Nope. And the Giants
Cole Ingle:are. And the Giants
Stoy Hall:are. Yep. Um, Vikings are playing. Vikings are, yep. I guess in a relevant game here. Mm-hmm. uh, you know what, I'll give it to Steelers. you, you shut down this week, in your opinion? Yeah. Mm-hmm. do you shut down to win or shut down to lose? Like,
Cole Ingle:I mean, we're the five seed no matter what.
Stoy Hall:Right? But I mean like, do you think you pull enough people out where you would lose that game? Yeah. Okay.
Cole Ingle:That's what I was, I mean, I, we shouldn't, like, Dak shouldn't start. Pollard shouldn't play. Correct. Zeke can play with Noah Brown and if we're getting t y Hilton, some reps and stuff like that, it's fine. So
Stoy Hall:huge matchup. Ravens bangles. It's the Bengals though. Uh, Ravens win. They go to a three seed and Bengals go from two to five. Mm-hmm. Um, but the Bengals at home, they're just, they're a better football team. Yeah.
Cole Ingle:And they go, they stay at the two Bengals, stay at the five chargers
Stoy Hall:are clearly gonna beat the Broncos cuz they're horrific. Ooh. Which jumps? Which puts the bills and Ravens as a matchup
Cole Ingle:playoff. But you realize that based on what we just did, that we have the Chargers going four and oh to end the season finishing at 11 and. just so you know. I said it's possible. I told you for real. It's possible. That's why we didn't told you, that's why we didn't call em a fraud. All right. Um, also the, the Raven's injury status is, is big cuz that means they're going two and two down the stretch. And even that we're stretching a little bit, huge question
Stoy Hall:mark on injuries. Yep. Um, the lines are playing a game to get in the playoffs, so Yeah, they're not losing that
Cole Ingle:or they are because it's a game to get in the playoffs.
Stoy Hall:I see what you did there. I'm gonna give Houston the win over the Colts. Give another dub. Who cares? Chiefs
Cole Ingle:um, chiefs have to win. Keep doing Chiefs. The ones they
Stoy Hall:sure do. They're gonna play that one. Yep. Uh, Titans, Jax, uh, Jacksonville at home. Okay. Jacksonville at home? Uh, San Francisco. Jacks still don't get in? Nope. San Francisco playing for nothing, man. So I'll give it to the Cardinals cuz they'll rest there. Jets, dolphins.
Cole Ingle:We really have the Vikings going 14 at three. That's not happening, by the way.
Stoy Hall:No. We'll go back. We'll adjust. This is our original Dolphins. Dolphins, or
Cole Ingle:Jets. I think the dolphins, when that game, I mean, again, I don't, I don't know how bad I, I mean it's at the Dolphins. I think the Dolphins find a
Stoy Hall:way to win all fine. Uh, and then Seattle will find a way to win. All right, so this is how. Originally sits after we go through and think through records. Right. Okay. So let's go back to, I think it was, I don't think we had any changes in week 15. It was 16. All right, so 16. We've got the main flip being, where the hell was it? Oh, here. If that happened. Mm-hmm. the Giants are in. Huh? Do you think the Giants can do.
Cole Ingle:oh, the Giants in at nine, seven, and one over the, over Detroit at ten seven. Uh, Detroit would
Stoy Hall:be nine and Oh, they would
Cole Ingle:be the tie?
Stoy Hall:No, the legitimate
Cole Ingle:tie Got them in. Yeah, they would be nine and eight. Okay. Yeah. Um, yeah, so, okay. Where else in, in, I mean, and this is something we'll do each week, um, from here until the playoffs. Um, what I love about knowing right now is, essentially everyone in the AFC has to play 17 weeks. They do. Um, the seating is going, or 18 weeks? Yeah. 17. They've gotta play all 17 other games. Um, because seating matters the whole time. Nfc, that's going to be irrelevant for two or three teams. Um, And so who did we have the 49ers? Like losing any games in the last Yeah,
Stoy Hall:we hadn't losing the Cardinals cause it didn't matter. But if 16, no, we haven't winning out, are they? Yeah, they're winning out except for week 18. But it all comes down to this game for basically this game
Cole Ingle:for, I mean, you think the Vikings are gonna sweep. I don't know how the
Stoy Hall:Packers play.
Cole Ingle:I no. Take the Packers in that game in San Francisco to go to, to win playing for seating. Okay. That that does flip them. Okay. Yeah. Don't flip'em. 13. Well, they're both 13 and four, so that's why I was curious. Yeah. That's the only
Stoy Hall:thing that really flips'em. Yeah. And then for my lonely NFC South really need the bucks to lose. One more game. Yeah. Uh, probably
Cole Ingle:it could be the, it'll be, it'll be that game that they have to lose this one. Woo.
Stoy Hall:That's the only chance we got in. Mm-hmm. Long chance. Come on, Panthers. Although I think this would've worked too.
Cole Ingle:Yeah. But did you have the Panthers winning 17 and 18 in that last scenario?
Stoy Hall:Oh, this, if I did. Yeah. Yeah. We're
Cole Ingle:still in, are they week when, week 18 as well? They had to, yeah. Yeah. So the, if everybody's tied at eight and nine, the Falcons have the tiebreaker. Mm-hmm. we'd have the, yeah, because they would win the division as far as, because first tiebreaker is division record, right?
Stoy Hall:Yeah. I would, I would assume division, it had to be division record or something.
Cole Ingle:I was just curious if all of those teams somehow ended up. Tide, which team would have the,
Stoy Hall:it'd be, it'd be crazy eye breaker. So, so there we are. So you
Cole Ingle:still got a chance,
Stoy Hall:buddy? Still got a chance? Uh, I don't think it's a very good one.
Cole Ingle:How about that? Uh, projected too. Uh, Dallas added Atlanta Dallas would be, that'd be kind of, that would be for us. Yeah. Be a nine and a half point favorite. This
Stoy Hall:thing that sucks is, I'd rather play at. Can we, can we just, can we just switch? No, absolutely not. Why not? Uh, that would be fun for us. Talk a lot of shit. Um, and you never know. But with these matchups as is and, and this is how we'll end, um, how do you, how do you have the playoffs going? Uh, start in the afc.
Cole Ingle:Afc, um, repeat,
Stoy Hall:here we go. Right. Um, depend. Is Lamar back or not? Let's say he's not. I have no
Cole Ingle:idea what it is unless something changes for the beng. Um, like injury-wise or something? Yeah, like they're hot. They're good. Yeah, they're good. Um, Bengals chiefs Bills, top three teams. Um, so I think the bills would be beat Miami. I think the Bengals would be Baltimore. Uh, ultimately I think the Chargers are, would be riding Agreed Hot hand, uh, would win that game. Uh, the chiefs are not gonna wanna see the. No, but when your alternatives are, the Bills burrow showing up in Arrowhead, you take what? The charges, you take the chargers absolutely. A hundred times out of a hundred. Uh, but this right here, um, we talked earlier about old regime pushing them out, Mahomes. Burrow, Allen Herbert studs, absolute studs would be, um, you've got Lamar Jackson. That would be out. Yep. Two of it would be out. And then Tina Hill was old though. Um, is technically is the only guy that like wouldn't fit in that conversation. AFC that is loaded with quarterbacks loaded with talent. Going to be a fun playoff scenario no matter what. But I would have, uh, yeah, Los Angeles going to, uh, Kansas City. Kansas City, um, Buffalo traveling to Cincinnati. Those are games. Those are fun games. Sign me up. I'm not going anywhere any more from there. But that's what, how I see that playing out. And then we get to the N F C N F C, you've got Philadelphia, um, who run things. Um, you've got Detroit, San Francisco. Feel bad for Detroit because I honestly. It's really the only team in the playoffs that not a good match. They just don't match. Well, they don't match. Um, they're cheering for the Vikings to, to be paired up against the Vikings, but this is a rematch of the opener. Dallas only gave up 15 points, I think. Yeah, it's Snar and they lost like 15 to 10, 15 to whatever it was. I expect Dallas to handle their business no matter who they're playing that first. Good news
Stoy Hall:is they know
Cole Ingle:they're, they're gonna play. Someone at NFC South Dallas is gonna play the winner of the NFC South. You have to win that football game or your coach has to get fired. Um, and like I, you're so not wrong, but like you had to win that football game. So Dallas now gets to unfortunately go play Philly, which is what I hate about how is gonna set up and how the seating's gonna set up. Begin
Stoy Hall:though. I would love that game. And this, this is gonna match up
Cole Ingle:too. Yeah. Um, so Dallas at Philly, uh, it's just like, I mean, it's a third time of the year and the thing is, is you can't punish. Like I don't, you know, I wouldn't want to play San Francisco probably as much, if not more is playing Philly. Right. Depending on how they're doing. However, if Purdy's still the quarterback, I would, you would rather have to take your chance in the playoffs. But I think San Francisco, um, Minnesota, if they're playing at San Francisco. Um, I just don't know that Minnesota has a chance in that game. If they're playing at Minnesota, Minnesota has a chance. But, uh, I agree. I think on both sides it looks pretty chalky. Inevitably, every year we get an injury, we get something that changes a little bit. That'll be a little bit off from what we have right now. Um, but we'll go through it. But I don't think that any of those are real farfetched at this point. Um, and not really, I'm not stepping outside the box there at. No, but I just think that those teams have solidified themselves. Now we go back here and we look at quarterback play from an opposite view of you've got Jalen Hertz's. First year has been a stud this year. Um, likely as, as long as he can finish the season. Um, him and Mahomes are gonna battle for the mvp. Um, I think Burrow will end up being in there overall as well. But, uh, I think as long as Philadelphia finishes as number one, overall seed hurts, probably wins the mvp. This. but then you get into the two seed and you've got Brock Purdy of Rookie. Okay? So, and you've got Kurt Cousins, and then you've got either Tom Brady, Sam Darn Ritter, or whoever the Saints might throw out there. Um, you've got Dak. You've got Heineke. Yep. And you've got Jerry Kauf. What a mixed bag. Needless to say, the afc, regardless of the four guys that come outta the gauntlet, well, like quarterly, be favored in the Super Bowl, absolute as they should uhhuh everybody but the Chargers basically just because they've proven that everything's competitive with them, regardless of how good, bad they are. I mean, realistically
Stoy Hall:if Philly's not in it. Mm-hmm. we're talking about a touchdown spread, at least. Yeah, the Philly would be the only one that would match up. And
Cole Ingle:even then it's probably two and a half. Two and a half to three and a half. Yep. Agreed.
Stoy Hall:So, so alright, we'll leave this as is. Yep. We'll, uh, we'll revert back to it. Um, and we can't, can't wait. It's playoffs, that's playoff time. It's almost
Cole Ingle:that time. Um, gonna be a lot of games that are playoff. I mean, I didn't realize it until we started, but we did talk lot about it as far as those inner inner conference, inner division games, um, being, you know, ipso facto, their playoff games in week 16, playoff game implication games. Week 17. Week 18, teams are gonna play themselves, themselves, in and out. So emotions will run high. please. N f l referees. Do not f it up. Stay
Stoy Hall:out of the
Cole Ingle:game. Thank you, Jesus. That's all I'm gonna say. Don't before I get it
Stoy Hall:too wound up. And that's how we're gonna end it. So like, share, subscribe, tweet, do all those things. Uh, we'll catch you next week.
Cole Ingle:Have a great weekend.
